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Dems portray 9/11 trials as NYC's justice

By Eric Zimmermann - 11/16/09 11:56 AM ET

As conservatives slam the administration for giving the 9/11 plotters criminal trials, Democrats have tried to re-frame the debate by portraying trials in New York as the city's shot at justice for the World Trade Center attacks.

Consider Rep. Anthony Weiner's (D-N.Y.) comments on Morning Joe today:

"If you want to have an international trial in The Hague, I'm going to find that a lot less satisfying than having this guy face his accusers, have the accusers get a chance come in and say what this mean, have a jury of New Yorkers say, 'You're going to be put to death, pal.' That, to me, is the way you mete out justice in this type of a thing."

Weiner then joked that an acquittal for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed might be the best justice of all--street justice.

"Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll be let off and he'll have to wander into Brooklyn or Queens," he quipped, suggesting KSM wouldn't get very far.

Portraying New York trials as a shot at vengeance for the city gives Democrats an emotional argument to counter Republican attacks.

Attorney General Eric Holder, for example, tapped into the same argument when he announced his decision on Friday.

"They will be brought to New York to answer for their alleged crimes in a courthouse just blocks from where the twin towers once stood," he said. 

And the Congressman representing Ground Zero, Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) heralded Holder's decision as a shot at justice for Manhattan.

"New York is not afraid of terrorists, we want to confront them, we want to bring them to justice, and we want to hold them accountable for their despicable actions," he said in a statement.


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Comments (9)

The decision to try KSM in NYC is disturbing on several levels. The burden of proof required by a military tribunal and jury by trial are quite different. Admissible evidence that the jury must use in the determination of guilt or innocence is also different. In short, this trial will most likely become trial of the intelligence community that Obama Administration wants. This administration is willing to deny the 9/11 families justice to make this statement.BY Doug Kimzey on 11/16/2009 at 13:02
Vengence (???)… hmmmm… Congressman Weiner thinks that vengence is a good reason to base legal action on? Vengence … really?BY Don K. on 11/16/2009 at 13:25
I'm a 4th generation New Yorker. I saw the towers fall with my own eyes (not on TV). I want justice. I want them tried in New York. And I don't give a darn what some Southern, Midwestern, or Western Neo-confederate thinks about this issue. Period. End of story.BY Ethan on 11/16/2009 at 15:01
Poor Ethan is a fool. During the discovery process, KSM will be given access to the intelligence data and intelligence sources (names and methods of retrieval) which allowed for his arrest. He will obviously remit this valuable information (though his laywers) to Al Qaeda. This is what happened after the first attack on WTC. Well documented. Look it up. It's a win for Al-Qaeda (no two ways about it).BY Liz on 11/16/2009 at 16:38
Thank you for speaking up Ethan. It seems as if everyone across the U.S. has an opinion as well as an interest in speaking for New Yorkers, and its good to hear someone who actually lives there share how they feel.BY Matt on 11/17/2009 at 03:22
Liz—- blow it out your GOPhole. If you think that would ever happen, you're blinded by your partisanship—- and that's pathetic. I was right there, too, Ethan. I was covered in the dust the stench, lost my home for months while the cleanup began. People—- we New Yorkers want them here. RIGHT here. We want to be there. EVERY SINGLE DAY. Sitting right behind them—- waiting for overdue justice to be done. No more having them sit in permanent limbo in Cuba. NO MORE. We want to be RIGHT THERE as the gavel falls and they're sent, do not pass go, do not collect $200. as they're sent directly to [***]. Do NOT get in our way on this. We want them RIGHT here. If your partisan rancor is going to have you spit bile—- stay out of it.BY Tony on 11/17/2009 at 15:03
Liz—— you would dare impugn our servicemen and women in the police? You would dare throw your support behind KSM, thinking that our professionals are stupid enough to allow for that? Silence your treasonous tongue and let we New Yorkers be RIGHT THERE to take the justice that we've waited EIGHT LONG YEARS OF CUBAN LIMBO to finally get.BY Tony on 11/17/2009 at 15:05
Liz, on reflection, apologies for my previous comments. As a Cuban I sometimes lose my temper and don't know how to act. I'll try to behave appropriately from now on.BY TONY on 11/18/2009 at 04:01
I am happy so many of you have such faith in our judicial system. But all I can think of is OJ Simpson. They had a trail of OJ and Nicole's blood mixed leading from one room to the next. They had a note from the victem in a security deposit box saying, "If I end up dead my husband did it." And then they had a change of venue which allowed a mostly african american jury to set him free.He played golf for a few years, never payed the victem's family what he was supposed to according to the civil court settlement and then considered writing a book about how he would have killed his wife IF he had killed her.So there is an example of some of the stuff that can go wrong. If this jury is of his peers I imagine some will be Muslim just as some of OJ's were black. And not that that alone means they will aquit him but then again they just might. It also only takes one member of the jury to produce a hung jury.Another example is Bill Ayers Obama's pal and member of The Weather Underground who would be in jail had a trial error not occured. Who knows maybe KSM will be a professor at a Chicago University in 15 years and hosting a fund raiser for a presidential candidate. But I'm sure all of you know best. Which is why we will all be able to place the blame firmly on your heads if anything goes wrong. I guess we'll see in another six to eight years.BY magicbeans on 11/23/2009 at 12:25

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