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Already, 23 Dems have said they will vote ‘no’ on healthcare reform

By Mike Soraghan and Michael M. Gleeson - 09/08/09 05:18 AM ET

At least 23 House Democrats already have told constituents or hometown media that they oppose the massive healthcare overhaul touted by President Barack Obama.

If Republicans offer the blanket opposition they’ve promised, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) can afford to lose only 38 members of her 256-member caucus and still pass the bill.

Most Democrats opposed to healthcare reform argue it costs too much, imposes a new tax and fines businesses that don’t provide insurance to employees. Some fear that the bill would subsidize abortion.

Many other Democratic members, including those berated by protesters at raucous town hall meetings in August, are still undecided.
A lot could change before the vote, expected late this month.

Voting against a president from your own party is starkly different from defying a Speaker or a committee chairman, and Obama is stepping up his involvement, starting with a speech to a joint session of Congress on Wednesday night.

The Pelosi camp, for its part, sees no reason to be discouraged.

“The Congress will pass and the president will sign this year health insurance reform that will lower costs, retain choice, improve quality and expand coverage,” said Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami.

Pelosi has vowed to include in the bill a government-run insurance plan, commonly called a “public option,” to compete with private insurers.

Many centrist opponents of the bill don’t like the public option, or don’t want to vote on such a controversial plan when it’s unlikely to become law.

There’s a chance the House bill won’t include it. Obama has shifted from saying it must be in the bill to saying he wants it in the bill. House leaders have said they want to see a bill from the Senate Finance Committee before the vote, and that bill is unlikely to include a public option.

But deleting the public option won’t make life easier for Pelosi.

At least 60 liberal Democrats have pledged to vote against a healthcare bill with no public option, which they view as watered-down reform.

Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) has said dropping the public option completely would lose 100 Democratic votes.

Even Pelosi’s critics and skeptics have to concede that she has almost never lost in the House since becoming Speaker. The main exception is the first vote on the $700 billion bailout package requested by the Bush administration, which later passed.

She twisted arms one by one in July to pass a climate change bill despite deep skepticism among centrists and Democrats from manufacturing states. But some of the public backlash from that has frightened and angered centrist and vulnerable members.

Democratic critics have different reasons for opposing the bill, and their opposition varies in its vehemence.

Rep. Eric Massa (D-N.Y.) a supporter of a “single-payer” system, opposes it because the public option isn’t strong enough. Other “single-payer” supporters in the party’s left wing could balk as well.

Some are definitive. There’s Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.), a Blue Dog who is one of the most conservative members of the Democratic Caucus. He told a town hall meeting last month, “I would hope by now that everyone in this room knows that I am not going to vote for the healthcare plan.”

Rep. John Adler (D-N.J.), a vulnerable Democrat, was equally blunt. He told a group of constituents last month, “The bill that’s coming through the House, with or without the public option, isn’t good for America.”

Others, such as Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), say they can’t support the bill “in its current form.” The bill is widely expected to change before it goes to the House floor, but if Pelosi keeps the public option in the bill, many centrists will see it as a left-leaning bill.

Rep. Tom Perriello (D-Va.), who unseated an incumbent in 2008 by a scant 745 votes, said at a town hall meeting , “I am a ‘no’ now, but I really want to get to a ‘yes.’ ”

And plenty of others aren’t ready to take a position.

“I’ll do the best I can, but I don’t know what’s the right thing to do yet,” Rep. Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.) told the Los Angeles Times after a town hall meeting. “I don’t know what I’m going to do. I don’t even know what we’re going to be voting on.”



The following Democratic lawmakers have indicated opposition to the healthcare plan moving through the House.

John Adler (N.J.)
Jason Altmire  (Pa.)
John Barrow  (Ga.)
Dan Boren (Okla.)
Rick Boucher  (Va.)
Allen Boyd (Fla.)
Bobby Bright (Ala.)
Travis Childers (Miss.)
Jim Costa (Calif.)
Henry Cuellar  (Texas)
Parker Griffith (Ala.)
Frank Kratovil (Md.)
Betsy Markey (Colo.)
Eric Massa (N.Y.)
Jim Matheson (Utah)
Charlie Melancon (La.)
Walt Minnick (Idaho)
Tom Perriello (Va.)
Earl Pomeroy (N.D.)
Heath Shuler (N.C.)
Bart Stupak (Mich.)
John Tanner (Tenn.)
Gene Taylor (Miss.)


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Comments (22)

Hats off to all of those that are standing up, holding their ground and voicing their opposition to this debacle. I sure hope that every Republican is smart enough to not put their support behind this, regardless if some compromise is reached or not. There have been so many lies and half truths and just plain false truths about the bill, that, it all boils down to really not being about health care, but, the governments taking over more of economy, reducing our choices and growing the government. I mean come on we had a guy in the administration that said he was a communist, we got another guy who says our organs belong to the state and we should harvest them. We're thing about getting in bed with the U.N., give me a break.BY jim on 09/09/2009 at 09:39
I am surprised that our Blue Dog is not on the list. He stated openly, at the start of the health care debate, that he was not going to back health care reform. I hope he has changed his mind! Otherwise he will have a hard tie winning another election!BY Eileen on 09/09/2009 at 11:09
If there were term limits and all congressional, senate, supreme court justices paid into social security and were at the mercy of medicare, social security, and insurance programs like the taxpayers they represent, we'd probably have healthcare, and all other programs balanced and running smoothly. Why should they fix something they'll never have to live with? Let's send Pelosi, Franks, Reid, Kerry, and their cronies to Afghanistan and Iraq and see if they can fix their countries! We can throw in Obama in 3 years, too.BY a Tennessean on 09/09/2009 at 11:25
How can you turn down a bill whose goal is to ensure that all Americans including children are given the opportunity to have access to health care. Look at other countries, like Canada, where it works. Americans are always so divided on everything…BY Christine on 09/09/2009 at 13:46
Check out James' and Brian's responses…no facts, just name calling. Just like typical liberals, they can't argue on the issues. Once again…the Dems started Social Security, voted to put excess funds into the federal buget, and later to tax Social Security benefits. The Dems started Medicare and Medicaid in 1965 and projected costs out 25 years. They were WRONG by 1000% for Medicare and much more for Medicaid. What does the government do efficiently and well?? Nothing!BY Jeff on 09/09/2009 at 14:06
Four hundred people die in this country every week because they don't have health insurance Karma to all you democraats thinking of voting no.Vote no now. We will vote no to you when your terms are up.BY Sheri Keating on 09/09/2009 at 14:29
Know the facts…a law called the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) ensures that no hospital can turn away anyone in need of emergency care. Anyone who states that they (or anyone else) does not have access to care is either ignorant or lying. Also, I haven't meet a medical provider yet who will not take cash or make arrangements for cash payments. This is all about people who want someone else to pay, or help to pay, for their medical care and not about keeping costs down. Once again, healthcare is a privilege and not a right.BY Jeff on 09/09/2009 at 15:09
I heard Gary Peters talk - MI and if he is smart he too will not vote for it. He is actually in a very fiscally conservative district and as a freshman dem would probably lose the next election. The townhalls around here have been amazing. Thousands came out to stand their ground against "healthcare reform, healthcare insurance reform, healthcare security" or whatever the latest lingo is from the current adm.My guess…Peters will vote no.BY Sue on 09/09/2009 at 15:09
They rolled on his coat tails and Royaley SCREWED UP in '93 and now again trying to act like they know what they are doing. As much as I can stand Republican's I admire one the fact they stick together and get things done, good or bad. All of the Dum Ass Dems saying they will vote against a Democratic President will be voted out on their Ass. Unfourtnately not soon enough.BY Peirce on 09/09/2009 at 15:56
The question remains, "Who Let The Dogs Out?"I see many of these zealous, fascists comments identically pasted on numerous other sites. A few hundred (even thousand) angry white folk with little else to do but attack each and every blogging site on a daily basis is IN NO WAY going to sway the VAST MAJORITY of voters in 2010. Mid-term elections with few exceptions favor the weaker party, but after the realties of the Republican party history continue to unfold its hard to see much change in the balance of power from this time and location. The final bill will pass; all of your dire predictions will evaporate; and all of you hateful scum will move on to the next attack (only god knows what that will be). I live in a particularly conservative Texas district (gerrymandered by our favorite criminal, Tom Delay-Abramoff; the district is now shaped like a stretched out small intestine). Remarkably for all your comments about voting this person or that based on your "end of the world as we know it," rapture event many educated Republicans in my area actually support the public-option because their INTELLIGENCE cannot deny that Health Care in this country is broken and degrading more each day. BTW, HR 3400 is a complete joke thrown together by the remnants of the former republican party as some last minute option to the months of what was supposed to be bipartisan consideration of how to address this growinig crisis. One poster mentioned that the 25 year prediction for the cost of Medicare was off by 1000% - well, no duh! Our broken system produced that and it will only get worse until we reign in the privates (who saw their profits quadruple during the Bush II years as our benefits continued to slowly but surely fade into the sunset). While their are many reasonable and idealogical Republicans dedicating their career to public service, the same is true of Democrats. On both sides, we no doubt see some eye-raising exceptions. But the majority of comments here tend toward the exception - and what a shame. Again, the bill will pass (even if reconciliation is needed; check Bush II's record on that Senatorial rule), and in a year each of you loud and foul mouthed evil haters will have moved on to your next hate focus. Ever wonder WWJD; I do and cannot imagine anything other than support for an even more extesnsive change, but would likely quote the beatitudes to each and every one of you bound for hell (my apologies to those not qualified). Take care, take your meds, and fro God's sake calm down; the sun will rise again you idiots.Without Progress, our souls and lives fester with infection and mental degradation.Thomas Paine in 1776's "Common Sense" wrote, in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion… The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."America's Constitution, Balance of governmental Powers, and Freedoms were designed to be living, progressive, and adaptable to the changes ahead - without such foresight the American "experiment" would have become frozen in some idealogical demise long ago. Western countries have followed our leadership, but are now beginning to outpace it. I hoped for a bipartisan solution this time, but it looks as if we will have to ignore the minority across the aisle yet again; but hope remains that as the pendelum of reality hangs to the left for quite some time, the ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers will once again prevail and our country will move back to the center and right. Don't you just miss the Clinton surplusses?'Nuff for now; now what did I do with that number for the dog pound?Thanks you for reading, as I rarely post,Steven in Texas…a bit left of center, pragmatic, and hopeful that hate can one day be channeled towards productive debate in a regulated, Capitalistic society who still understands the words inscribed on the Statue of LibertyBY STEVEN IN TEXAS on 09/09/2009 at 20:50

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