Rep. Karen BassKaren BassIndependent investigation into Russian interference needed Black Dems tell Trump: ‘We have a lot to lose’ A guide to the committees: House MORE (D-Calif.) and Rep. John Flemming (R-La.) spoke to MSNBC about state of the debt debate.

Flemming said he preferred the "cut, cap and balance" bill, but acknowledged it would not pass the Senate. He said he supports BoehnerJohn BoehnerThe Hill's 12:30 Report GOP rushes to vote without knowing full impact of healthcare plan Dem senator to reintroduce ‘buy American’ legislation MORE's plan, calling it an "excellent compromise."

"We tried to work with the president to have tax-rate reform, which would lower the rates and do away with these deductions, and the president sent Boehner away," said Flemming.

Bass criticized Boehner's plan for containing the principals of "cut, cap and balance" within the proposal. She called for a separation of the debt-ceiling-increase vote and the deficit debate.

"I empathize for Speaker Boehner, I really do because I feel like his caucus is not really letting him lead."

Flemming disagreed, saying as a member of the caucus, they were in support of the Speaker. He deflected the blame, saying it was Obama who ended the "big deal."

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