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Hoyer: Census 'doesn't exist to score political points'

By Jordan Fabian - 10/22/09 03:12 PM ET

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) on Thursday said "the census doesn't exist to score political points" in response to a Republican amendment that would exclude illegal immigrants from being counted.

Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Bob Bennett (R-Utah) introduced a controversial amendment to a Senate spending bill that would would require the census to include a question about an individual's citizenship or immigration status. 

Vitter previously accused Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) of wanting to include illegal immigrants in the census, alleging that doing so would skew the reapportionment of Congressional seats, which is based on the census, in favor of Democrats.

But Hoyer counted Vitter's efforts, saying in prepared remarks that "the census doesn’t exist to score political points -- It exists to give us an accurate picture of our country."

He continued, saying that "adding a new question to the census, especially at this late date, would be damaging and irresponsible. That's also the opinion of every living Director of the Census."

Hoyer also said that such an effort would discourage legal immigrants from participating.

"It would also lead to an inaccurate count. With a question about citizenship, immigrants who fear being deported, along with their families and friends, are much more likely to avoid the census," he said.

The majority leader echoed the calls of many lawmakers, saying that including such a questions would be costly and wasteful because it would involve reprinting new census materials and destroying old forms.

Rep. Joe Baca (D-Calif.) yesterday introduced a bill that would ensure all U.S. residents -- potentially including illegals -- are counted.

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Then there is absolutely no reason for illegals to be counted.BY Rock on 10/22/2009 at 18:30
Our government needs to prove to the American workers that they mean what they say? That means secure borders and interior immigration enforcement. E-Verify is part of nationwide enforcement, a tool that has caused hysteria amongst the open border demagogues. E-verify was nearly sold out by Sen. Harry Reid , Nancy Pelosi , Rep. Joe Baca (D-Calif.) and even Janet Napolitano. But this time they failed to arrest it's capability to remove E-Verify from the Parthenon of tools, that addresses the illegal immigration invasion. Brought into the spotlight by Senator Sessions, they Democratic leadership were unable to sink it beyond the enlightened eyes of the attentive public. As with the 1986 Immigration control and reform bill, those anti-sovereignty organizations have—NEVER—tried to—ENFORCE—the law. THROW ALL THESE ANTI-SOVEREIGNTY LAWMAKERS OUT WHEN RUNNING FOR OFFICE AGAIN.So now those catering to big business are repeatedly saying its broken. like any immigration enforcement laws, Democrats and Republicans alike over decades have refused to enforce the border. A new survey conducted by Rasmussen Reports reveals that 56% of Americans say that federal immigration policies encourage illegal immigration, and 64% believe that local law enforcement should conduct raids in places where illegal aliens gather to find work. Only 19% opposed the raids compared to 24% who opposed such raids back in April. Another condemnation by faith groups is Sen. Chuck Schumer's attempt to claim overwhelming evangelical Christian support for his pending amnesty legislation has crumbled. His master plan was to use the staff and leadership of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) to give the impression of near unanimity.The NAE tried. But after the members in the pew erupted, only 11 of the 40 NAE member denominations have been willing to sign on to endorse amnesty and Schumer's "comprehensive immigration reform" agenda. Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) offered an amendment to the Commerce, Justice and Science (CSJ) appropriations bill that would have prevented CSJ funds from going to cities or localities with "sanctuary" policies (i.e., those cities that prohibit their police officers from assisting Immigration and Customs Enforcement, refuse to report criminal illegal aliens, and act as safe havens for illegal aliens). The paranoid Senators voted 61-38 to table the amendment (effectively killing it), with at least one of your Senators voting against the amendment. Unfortunately these are SANCTUARY STATES such as California that is now submerged under massive financial debt, a large portion caused by the millions of illegal families living of state welfare. Rep. Joe Baca (D-CA) yesterday introduced a bill that would ensure all citizens and U.S. residents—INCLUDING —illegals immigrants — are counted in the US Census.This included Sen. DeMint amendment to construct the original—DOUBLE LAYER—fence, authored originally by Rep.Duncan Hunter, which like most approved laws are hastily thrashed in cloaked conferences pandering to corporate cartels and pro-illegal immigrant lobbyists. Thanks to the open border groups our border defenses comprises of a single layer barrier, with large areas of nothing to halt illegal criminals, drug peddlers, uninhibited terrorists and scores of illegal aliens with families from entering America. Sanctuary policies encourage illegal immigration by sending a signal across the world that anyone who manages to enter the United States will be able to stay here as long as they wish - regardless of their status - because our government lacks the will to enforce its own laws. These illegal policies have contributed to our current illegal immigration debacle and are an embarrassment to the country.Call and blast your Senators and Representative at 202-224-3121 in Washington. Overwhelming the switchboard with your calls, as it is having an outstanding effect of—MILLIONS of angry voters. INFORM THEM DO YOUR DUTY OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES ON RE-ELECTION DAY? Tell them you want a PERMANENT E-Verify for—EVERY WORKER, a secure double layer fence and—REAL—enforceme nt against sanctuary state policies. Read undisclosed facts at NUMBERSUSA. UNEARTH the corruption at JUDICIAL WATCH. Your voice is needed to halt OVERPOPULATION and American Worker survival. Demand NO-MORE-AMNESTIES. Go home and come through the front door, like millions of legal immigrants?BY Brittanicus on 10/22/2009 at 18:31
LOL!!! The Census doesn't exist to score political points!! Oh My God, that is so funny!! Now really, why would "Dirty" Harry Reid want to skew anything. Let's be serious.I'm not a politician or anything like good old Harry, but let me see if I can figure this out. First of all, there are what 10 - 30 Million (no one really knows) illegals currently in the country? And the Democratic leadership (Obama, Reid, Pelosi) want to legalize them. Well that's nice. And then we of course want to give them access to this great government health insurance. It seems that if we legalize them first, then the President did not lie like that mean old Joe Wilson said. Okay, so now we have 30 Million (guess) new citizens with brand new shiny health care. Since these individuals are rather poor working "ALL THE JOBS" that NO ONE wants to do although unemployment is almost 10%, 15.3% here in Michigan where I live. So we might want to make up some provision that gives the newly legal illegals health care as an entitlement, it won't cost anything because the democrats are going to tax anybody who shows up from another planet (well, unless they promise to vote democrat). Now we have 30 Million GRATEFUL citizens with shiny new free health care. How many illegals do you think we will have the following year?? 100 Million??? Any guesses?? And why would the dear old democratic party want this? Well, if Hispanic voters (of which we will have an influx of who knows how many million) follow there typical voting pattern, and African American voters follow there typical voting pattern then any republican seeking national office would have to garner nearly every non-Hispanic or non-African American vote. Does anyone else see a problem with that??????BY Patrick Michael on 10/22/2009 at 20:35
brittanicus? or is it more like red-nek-us.get a life loser.BY linda hoyne on 10/23/2009 at 00:15
Not mentioned in the story, Steny of course basis this assertion about the Census on the general welfare clause…Steny "Constitution = general welfare clause" Hoyer.BY JoeSwiss on 10/23/2009 at 02:13
It may not "exist" to score political points, but if they include enough illegal aliens in the census it could give districts more representation in the House and Senate, thus it could at some point help to arrive at that magical number of 60 votes. Yes the census does matter just as the Supreme Court matters. Everything matters in politics.BY tiredofit on 10/23/2009 at 07:14
If you have been singled out as a "radical", left or right, you should be concerned. Trust the government? The ones who enable the bank ponzi scheme?…The Census Bureau provided the Army with a list of exactly how many Japanese-Americans lived in given neighborhoods, making it easy to round them up for internment during World War II. Census Bureau spokesman Ray Bancroft insists that this was not a breach of confidentiality because the bureau did not give out the names or exact addresses of Japanese-Americans. This is like someone claiming he bears no responsibility for setting loose on your block a wolf that just happened to gnaw on your leg — simply because he didn't set the wolf free at your doorstep and tell the wolf to bite you personally."Other cases occurred in Montgomery County, MD; Pullman, Wash; Long Island Regional Planning Commission; and Urbana, IL; where census data released on a 'block' basis is used to check compliance with local building codes and zoning laws. A block can have as few as 6 houses; the average is 14. This clearly lets these governments pinpoint where to send their inspectors to charge people with violations.The IRS tried to use computer matching of census data and private mailing lists to track down people wno don't file income taxes, in 1983…BY tropicgirl on 10/23/2009 at 11:22
I don't like illegal immigrants in this country any more then the average Joe. But instead of writing a book on here, why don't you encourage people to vote, so we can get these bozos out of here. I'm an independent, and I don't either party, but at least the Republicans stand up to illegals.BY rdw on 10/23/2009 at 13:02
Hoyer and Baca state that "the census doesn't exist to score political points" and both endorse counting all illegal aliens. By their comments and actions both have admitted to violating their sworn oath of office and violating our laws via aiding and abetting illegal aliens. Their duties mandate they ensure the expulsion of these illegal aliens and protect and defend this country from invasion. Any and every corrupt politician who protests Vitter's and Bennett's bill should be charged with dereliction of duty and removed from office.BY Kathleen on 10/24/2009 at 13:07

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