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Ashcroft: Holder lacks legal authority to order terror trials

By Michael O'Brien - 11/18/09 12:43 PM ET

Attorney General Eric Holder lacks authority to make a decision on moving terror detainees to civilian courts for trial, one of his predecessors said Wednesday.

Former Attorney General John Ashcroft, who held his position during the Bush administration from 2001-2005, said that Holder lacked the legal standing to decide to move alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and other terror detainees to federal courts in New York City to stand trial.

"The attorney general doesn't have the authority to mandate that the secretary of Defense turn somebody over to him and yield jurisdiction so that something that would have been done in a military setting is done in a civilian setting," Ashcroft told the Christ Stigall show on KCMO radio this morning.

"I believe that this is a decision that comes as a result of the president making the decision, or if not making the decision, allowing an attorney general to do what he normally doesn't have the authority to do, and could only do at the acquiescence of the president," the former AG and former Missouri senator argued.

President Barack Obama has said that he instructed Holder to make an independent determination on the best way to proceed against the terrorist detainees.

"You know, I said to the attorney general, make a decision based on the law," Obama said in an interview on CNN this morning.

The president has backed Holder's decision, saying he has confidence in the court system to resolve the cases, including a potential death sentence for the defendants.

Ashcroft said his own experience as attorney general led him to his conclusion about Holder's authority.

"The office of Attorney General doesn't have the power or authority to do this on its own, in my judgement," he explained. "Of course, my judgment can be flawed -- I spent a few years there and considered these kinds of issues."

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Comments (25)

Someone from the Bush administration saying Justice doesn't have authority??? That's a joke.BY Andreams on 11/18/2009 at 13:11
Well, it certainly appears as though all of the people that were aboard the GWB train are adamantly opposing these "terrorist" trials giving one reason or another. Guiliani among several others state that they prefer to look out for americans feelings and safety, which I believe is a crock. Now we have former attorney general Ashcroft stating that attorney general Holder doesn't have the authority to order the terror trials to be held. You know America, this really has the possibility to get quite interesting. It also makes one wonder if these staunch proponents against this trial being held in NYC just might indeed have some dirty laundry they donot wish to be aired out for the american public? I do believe there is a time for every season and there is a reason for everything. Hmmmm…BY Julie on 11/18/2009 at 13:23
Can we afford this?BY Julies on 11/18/2009 at 13:39
No JULIES the economy is about to tank as a matter of fact. Got Gold? :)BY Julie on 11/18/2009 at 14:14
Andreams, how is it a crock?BY Karin on 11/18/2009 at 14:14
Another example of Obama passing the buck to someone else.Ms. Julie - keep grasping at straws, mmm mmm mmm You appear to have zero knowledge of military precedant and history dealing with war crimes. During WW II these guys would have long ago been stood up in front of a firing squad and sent on their way to visit their 71 virgins.Case closed.BY Bob in NC on 11/18/2009 at 16:28
Jule- what is the purpose of having a civilian criminal trial for a foreign combatant? Explain to me the upsides. Also, please explain the precedent for doing so.Bush wanted military trials because they are quicker, cleaner, have broader rules of evidence and quite frankly, are what has been used in the past. Lawyers at Holder's former law firm and other pro jihadi lawyers delayed those trials for years and so, the buck got passed to Obama. Again, where's the upside? Why not just let him plead guilty in a military court and execute him?BY Matt on 11/18/2009 at 17:29
IANAL : IMO the enemy combatants have to be tried in civilian courts because we invented the status ' illegal enemy combatants' to circumvent the application of the (military) status POW with the attendant POW Geneva conventions applicable: no torture for starters. Maybe Ashcroft is looking at this ass backwards: the DoD has or had no authority to hold civilian prisoners?? Or maybe they should have declared the detainees to be POWs (one can hold them until the 'end of the war') and skipped the torture that sought to link 9/11 to Iraq??BY sailmaker on 11/18/2009 at 18:07
The Attorney General and the President are *finally* following the law of the land.While the Geneva Convention does not use the word "terrorist", it does talk about "legal combatants" and "illegal combatants". It covers more than uniformed soldiers. It includes civilians, CIA interrogators, Jihadists, Al Qiada or other "unlawful" combatants.Even Cheney and Yoo stopped saying otherwise when the Supreme Court reminded them they were full of crap (Hamdan vs. Rumsfeld).U.S. International Treaty commentary on the Geneva Convention (1958): Every person in enemy hands must be either a prisoner of war and, as such, be covered by the Third Convention; or a civilian covered by theFourth Convention. Furthermore, "There is no intermediate status; nobody in enemy hands can be outside the law," because, "If civilians directly engage in hostilities, they are considered 'unlawful' or 'unprivileged' combatants or belligerents. They may be prosecuted under the domestic law of the detaining state for such action".An unlawful combatant who is not a national of a neutral State, and who is not a national of a co-belligerent State, retains rights and privileges under the the Geneva Convention so that he must be "treated with humanity and, in case of trial, shall not be deprived of therights of fair and regular trial."Article 3: Countries that violate the Geneva Conventions can be held accountable for charges of war crimes.Article 146: Obliges the United States to investigate allegations of "grave breaches,"And finally: the U.S. Constitution (Article VI) clearly indicates that "all Treaties…shall be the supreme Law of the Land."BY Dool on 11/18/2009 at 18:27
Well if AG Holder doesn't have the authority, maybe he should just get someone from the office of legal counsel to write an opinion that he does have the authority and then everything will be cool. Right, wingersBY Laura on 11/18/2009 at 18:28

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