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The Big Question: Did Cheney go too far?

By Sydelle Moore, Eric Zimmermann, Michael O'Brien, and Samantha Guthrie - 10/23/09 09:08 AM ET

Some of the nation's top political commentators, legislators and intellectuals offer their insight into the biggest question burning up the blogosphere today.

Today's Question:

Was it appropriate or out of line for Dick Cheney to accuse President Obama of "dithering" on Afghanistan?

Rep. Mike McMahon (D-N.Y.) said:

It’s certainly inappropriate; especially when Dick Cheney comes from the school of politicians who cry “unpatriotic foul” anytime anyone ever criticized the Bush policy, especially with regards to Iraq or Afghanistan. For a former vice president to use that type of word, and criticize the president in that type of forum is certainly in my opinion unpatriotic.

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) said:

I actually gave a one minute speech today where I stated that I agreed with Vice President Cheney, that the president is dithering which is particularly surprising because the president made it very clear when he ran last year the importance of providing sufficient resources in Afghanistan, and I specifically quoted his statements during the campaign and I quoted specifically from the acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention where he identified that it was necessary to provide sufficient forces to defeat the terrorists. And of course then in March, I sent out a news release commending the president for his strategy and his selection of General McChrystal and the good work of General Petraeus and also I have cited the speech on August 17th to the VFW Convention in Phoenix where the president reiterated that it was so important and I agreed with him to successfully achieve victory in Afghanistan. So I believe that Vice President Cheney was absolutely correct, and I say this, that it shouldn’t be that partisan and we should be, Democrats and Republicans, agreeing on this issue and the decision should be made. By delaying this decision our troops are at risk and it is giving false encouragement to people who appose this country.


Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit said:

One assumes that Cheney would rather retire quietly, but that he feels the Administration is dropping the ball on something very important. Etiquette has generally held, pace Jimmy Carter, that former Presidents don't criticize their successors in public. But Cheney is a former Vice President, to whom no such etiquette applies. (Until recently, it was not needed, as no one cared what former Vice Presidents thought, anyway...)

Cheney has been remarkably successful in pressuring the Obama Administration with his earlier pronouncements on the war, so he probably thought it was worth trying again. More interesting to me is the Administration's reflexive counterattack, which seems -- like its attacks on other critics -- to be counterproductive. The White House's message-control is poor, and it's clearly hurting Obama in the polls and with moderate Democrats. Unlike Cheney, who never pretended to be anything but what he is, Obama ran as a post-partisan transcendent figure, and getting down-and-dirty with critics undermines that in a way that does more big-picture damage than can be justified by any short-term benefit. It seems, however, that they can't help themselves.

Paul Kawika Martin, Organizing, Political and PAC Director of Peace Action, said:

To criticize an eleven-month old Obama Administration for taking time to make major decisions on the nearly impossible situation in the Afghanistan region is absurd.  The only thing more absurd is that it comes from the Bush Administration who caused the problems and had nearly eight years to fix.

Clearly Cheney's major priorities this year have been to defend and white wash the failed policies of the Bush administration, take political jabs at the current Administration and continue his legacy through his daughter.

Peace Action was one of the few NGOs opposing invading Afghanistan.  Like Iraq, the Bush administration had no long-term plan for Afghanistan.  They funded with countless millions in cash warlords to push out Taliban.  Some of these warlords are now in the Karzai administration causing problems.  Some of the Aid under Bush administration for Afghanistan came in the form of "photo ops," like CAT scan machine sent to hospitals with minimal electricity, no technicians and no one to install them, but the picture of it played well back in the states.

While the Obama administration is seeming more thoughtful and saying that Afghanistan needs a political solution not military one.  Most of the funding and action has been military this year.  In my recent trip there, it was clear to me that sending 40,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan will fail to substantially increase security, to stop violent extremists and to make Americans safer.  Instead, U.S. and NATO forces need to stop air and Predator drone strikes, arbitrary arrests and detentions and other actions that kill, injure or terrorize innocent civilians and create recruits for the Taliban. The billions of dollars it would cost to send troops would pay more security dividends invested into Afghanistan to provide its populous with physical, economic and food security.

If the Bush administration would have taken some of these actions years ago instead of taking us to the Iraq quagmire, perhaps we would be in a better situation in that unstable region of the world.

John F. McManus, President of the John Birch Society, said:

Dick Cheney's comments about Afghanistan deserve severe criticism, not because they were directed at Mr. Obama, but because they presume that the U.S.-led effort in that nation is proper in the first place.  As a former Marine Corps officer, I know that fighting a war against a tactic (such as terrorism) is about as complete reversal of the role of the military as could be imagined.  Had our nation fought against a tactic in WW II, we'd likely still be at it.  Also, the U.S. Constitution clearly requires a congressional declaration of war before sending forces into battle.  There has been none for this war and none for the war in Iraq.  If there had been declarations, there would have been a clear objective and both wars would have long been over. The preemptive war against Iraq, with Cheney leading the charge for it, should never have been launched in the first place.  Without such declarations of war, Congress and several administrations have betrayed those who serve.  Every day I read with deep anguish about casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq. 

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Comments (53)

Mr Cheney should keep his mouth closed. It was under his and Bush's reign that the hunt for UBL and the war in Afghanistan were botched and eight years were wasted. Resources were diverted AWAY from the "good" war and the idiotic, ill conceived and un-neccessary war in Iraq got all the resources! Now he wants to call the shots??? Ridiculous! You, Mr. Cheney and your sidekicks Bush, Rumsfeld et al dropped the ball and now you criticize the President??? Get real.BY Greg Williams on 10/23/2009 at 10:43
The W/H should never have lied an said the Bush Admid didn't leave a strategy in place for the Obama Admid an obama had to come up with a strategy from scratch, after this lie Cheney had every right to say what he really thinks.BY ANN on 10/23/2009 at 10:58
ex president cheney is evil. In a just world he would be brought up on war crimes charges in the Hague. He and bushjunior wrecked the country on their watch. They should be held up to shame and ridicule. It is time to get back to the real world and recognize these losers for what they are. They failed repeatedly in protecting the country on 9-11-2001, in prosecuting their personal grudge war, in finding Osama bin Laden and in building a sound economy. If they were successful in what they were trying to achieve, then they are thieves and traitors and should be treated accordingly.BY Harry Canary on 10/23/2009 at 11:12
Harry and Greg, you are right-on! The fact that this question is even being asked is amazing. Cheney is pure evil, with a healhy dose of sheer incompetence on top. There is no other elected figure in my lifetime that I would call evil or that deserves such shame. Pres. Cheney and Bush jr. should tuck their tails under their legs and go hide in their caves. They nearly brought this country to total ruin, so they have zero credibility in criticizing anything that Obama does. Let's not forget, the worst terrorist attack in US history happened under their watch. They screwed around making profits off 2 wars while accomplishing nothing. What in the heck did they ever do in Afghanistan that warrants any praise? They left a total mess for Obama to clean up (just like the economy). Then they feign outrage after he doesn't clean up their 8 year screw up in 9 months? Give me a break!BY the professor on 10/23/2009 at 12:04
Of course Cheney went too far — but isn't that what he's know for?!!!BY Del on 10/23/2009 at 12:41
Hard to find anything else to add to Harry, Greg, and the Professor. Ann what Cheney describes as a strategy may have been akin to what they called a strategy in Iraq and similar to their plans in Afgahnistan prior to Iraq. That is, no strategy at all, just killing as many who disagree with you as possible.BY Sauerkraut on 10/23/2009 at 12:45
Cheney "dithered" for 8 YEARS on Afghanistan. President Obama is conducting a thorough review of the current situation and thoughtfully making a decision based on fact and strategy - two things that the Bush/Cheney Administration avoided at all costs unless it served their Military/Security Industrial Complex overlords.BY Ethan on 10/23/2009 at 12:47
I think the comments made by the White House last Sunday crossed the line much more than Cheney. Top politicize the war and continually blame the Bush Administratioin is getting old, and is not at all Presidential. This Administration would be a joke if it weren't so scary.BY Jim on 10/23/2009 at 12:54
I see the left-wing nuthouse left the computer on again and the inmates got to it. Obama is indecisive. What happened to his strategy developed before and caused him to bring in the new commander. Now that the commander has given his assessment BHO has to see what the political winds say to do (commonly referred to as "dithering".) Why bother to have a strategy or handpick a military person to run the operation. Let's just let Joe Biden do it. Then Obama can blame Joey and avoid any responsiblity.BY njpro on 10/23/2009 at 13:06
It is apparent that those who are dissing Cheney are oblivious to the fact that a strenuous review was conducted last year, and the Bush admin honored a request by president elect to not make it public. In March, Obama announced a plan which effecitvely adopted many of the conclusions, tactics and strategies of the former admin's study, and has since lied about such a study taking place as a means to deflect that no critical decisions are being made. So wake up and understand the realities. The pres. needs to either call it quits and get our forces out or call it a go, and protect those that are there with reinforcements. That is a non-partisan choice that should be made now, almost a Year after the study!BY JohnS on 10/23/2009 at 14:53

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