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The Big Question: What could Democrats gain or lose by tackling the healthcare bill alone?

By Sydelle Moore, Mary Ann Dreas and Tony Romm - 10/27/09 10:12 AM ET

Some of the nation's top political commentators, legislators and intellectuals offer their insight into the biggest question burning up the blogosphere today.

Today's question:

What do Democrats stand to gain or lose politically if they go it alone on healthcare?

Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) said:

Well obviously anytime you can have bipartisan support it's a very helpful thing, but I think more important than numbers from either party is whether or not the outcome will actually work; whether it will help bring the deficit down, or whether it will make healthcare more affordable to Americans. I think the nature of the vote, whether it's partisan or bipartisan, will largely be forgotten overtime. People will focus on whether the product actually made sense. The party that votes for it will get credit if it's a partisan vote, and if it doesn't make sense, then all the Republican support in the world won't protect from a produce that didn't work. I think most people are pretty practical about these things. We here and your publication tend to obsess about it, but the average American will only ask, 'Did it improve my insurance? Did it make it more affordable, and am I now able to get it?'

Michelle D. Bernard, president & CEO of the Independent Women's Forum, said:

President Obama ran as a centrist politician who would rise above petty politics and work with both parties to find solutions that work for America. Today, all the political back-and-forth that's occurred up to this point in time will be overshadowed by the outcome of the health care debate. This legislation will radically alter the way the American health care system works, affecting just about every American. Right now, many Americans are frustrated with the way that this debate has been conducted and believe that the legislation that will be passed will make things worse, not better.

The Independent Women's Forum will release findings from a poll of women this week that should serve as a wake-up call to political leaders. Political wisdom has been that women are natural supporters of more liberal policy prescriptions, and all believe government will do a better job running our health care system. But this just isn't the case.

All this means that there is great political danger in the Democrats proceeding to ram through such an ambitious bill without any buy-in from Republicans. It isn't just Republicans that they will alienate, but all of the Independents and moderates who believed in the idea that President Obama represented a new brand of politics.

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) said:

I'm going to do everything I can to try to make for a bipartisan bill, and I was just encouraged by Sen. Gregg's comments he made 15 or 20 minutes ago.

Tom McClusky, senior vice president of FRC Action, said:

The Democrats can claim full ownership of the mess they are trying to create. It would have been very easy for the Democratic leadership to make the legislation bipartisan - however the original bills were crafted behind closed doors with some of the most liberal Members of Congress at the beginning of this debate, and being recrafted in the same manner now. This maneuvering might have guaranteed them a bill that will satisfy their liberal base - but at the sacrifice of conservative members in their own party.

Herb London, president of the Hudson Institute, said:

Should the Democrats go it alone on healthcare as their majority in the House and Senate would permit, the party would "own" healthcare, thereby putting this issue on center stage for its political future. This is a major gamble since most polls indicate growing bipartisan dissatisfaction with healthcare proposals across the country. It would quickly become the litmus test employed by dissident Republicans who will argue, with some justification, that they were not consulted, not forewarned and needlessly ignored in committee discussions.

Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) said:

I don't know. That's for other people to speculate. I don't look at things that way.

Glenn Reynolds, from Instapundit, said:

I believe the Democratic leadership has made the calculation that it is better to have something they can call a victory, however attained, than to face a defeat. In the short term this is probably correct. The press generally treats the passage of a bill as a triumph in and of itself, and the coverage on this issue is likely to be more than usually sympathetic.

On the other hand, there's no reason to think that the program will produce any tangible benefits for voters between now and 2012, and based on recent history -- Cash For Clunkers, anyone? -- it's very likely to be a mess once implementation starts. If so, it will be a mess that the Democrats own.

John F. McManus, president of The John Birch Society, said:

As the American people become increasingly more distrustful of government (a very good development!), the Democrats who are pushing hard to establish a more complete federal takeover of the health industry face large-scale repudiation in the 2010 and future elections. There is certainly a possibility of a repeat in 2010 of the 1994 victories by GOP candidates, even though that victory was deceitfully squandered by then-Speaker Gingrich and his essentially meaningless "Contract with America." The rising tide of displeasure over the many federal power grabs will affect the large body of independent, swing voters much more than Democratic and GOP bases.

Source:
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/healthcare/64935-the-big-question-what-could-dems-gain-or-lose-politically-if-they-tackle-healthcare-alone

Comments (26)

The latest polling on policy priorities of the American electorate shows that they are concerned with the economy, the economy and the economy. Health "reform" is far down the list of national concerns. And yet the Democratic majorities in the House and Senate are about to forcibly saddle us with a trillion-dollar nightmare of bureaucratic intrusion and ruinous debt that will not improve care but, under the laws of economics, must lead to its rationing. I am glad there was no Republican involvement in the drafting of this legislation. I am so very. very happy there will be no Republican fingerprints on it if it passes. Let the arrogant Democrats, with their smug assurance that they know what is best for everyone, pay the full political price in 2010. I can hardly wait!BY Brian John Murphy on 10/27/2009 at 16:55
Sen. Nelson says he doesn't look at things that way. HUH?BY joe on 10/27/2009 at 17:34
The DNC wants to thank The Hill for compiling this dossier for them. Where should they send the check and to whom should it be made payable?BY Brian Goettl on 10/27/2009 at 18:05
Health care reform is in fact vital to the economy. There is little doubt that if Ford and GM were not the country's largest HMOs while trying to be run companies, they'd have been in much better shape over the past decade (as Bill Ford has said many times). This is why they have so little incentive to manufacture cars within the US. On top of that, the healthcare bill does not add to the deficit— it REDUCES it (and if the CBO says otherwise, they should amend it until CBO agrees). That's the whole point. The current system is a massive drag on the economy. So any Republican in favor of reducing the deficit should be in favor of this bill.What's sad to me is that Republicans didn't get on board and demand Tort Reform in return for their support. There is no reason this bill could not have had republican support and provide healthcare for 97% of the country. But as Mitch McConnell said, "Public option or not, Tort reform or not, we're basically just against the whole idea."That's really sad.BY doc3osh on 10/27/2009 at 18:06
Ah, Brian, where have you been? There is overwhelming support by the voters for the Public Option. Faux doesn't report that though, and Limbarf insists on blathering about a fake Obama thesis, encouraging hateful division in America, and is dripping with bigotry, so, it's understandable how you could be so so totally mis-informed…you and the rest of your kind. There are 20% of you "conservative republicans" remaining in the USA and it is doubtful that those numbers will win you much in the upcoming elections, but hey, keep beck and palin as your party leaders. We encourage that!Healthcare is part of the Economy silly…Reagan is dead, and we are living in the path of his destructive "Trickle Down" theory, deregulation, and with bush's tax cuts for the rich, that have RUINED this country.You just need to keep living in the past, and we will go ahead and take care of the needed changes that will bring the USA into the 21st century.BY nors on 10/27/2009 at 18:28
LOL NORS,you really must do some research dude. ok to start..the thesis he said on his show it was a sattire..the same day.his dripping sarcasm kept the piece up because just like they say about him about racial overtones,"we know he thinks it anyway".as far as your 20 pct of conservatives..lol boy yer about 30 pct off and liberals..pssst i think thats you…are the minority there junior…the lates polls show this from yesterday…i checked even before reading your dribble.we all know the dems are the class dividers.they always want to talk to each race divided and not as just plain ole americans.listen to some speeches there junior,perhaps i will make a collage from my inventory to show you just to piss you off to show you how your ignorance is being played by the kings and queens of "raise taxes to pay for social programs".healthcare…hmmm im not gonna waste much more time with your silly rendition…im just gonna ask you this…if you go to the hospital now do you get help?will they fix you without going to a panel of people to decide whether your worth it to society?thats in there…ohh yes the hell it is.lets hope non of your family has any problems especially mom or dad or grandparents…i mean unless your just truly heartless or dont have any family.in closing do us a favor until they put out a final print i suggest you read the "Bills" they are merging into the final print…perhaps going to the people who are actually fact checking them..you know the glen becks and stuff you can find the areas that prove your wrong and that this particular legislation will hinder our country…you know like spend alot more money that we dont actually have and stuff…inflatio n was said to have about 10 yrs before coming around now they are saying 5 or less…when that hits our money wont be worth spit and people like you we will know because you will be the one dazed and confused and talking to yerself in a third person atmosphere.we do not need to cover everyone we only need to cover the ones not covered which is ALOT less and would mean the government doesnt need to take control…so obviously theres an underlying reason why they want to TAX you if you dont take the option and or THROW your ASS in JAIL if you refuse to do that.now only a following sheep would go to his or her own slaughter by believing everything without checking…i guess your teacher never taught ya about fact checking your work huh NORS?since ive read it ill let you do something to make yourself feel good about not being a worthless bag of flesh and look it up for yourself.BooooYahhh,Douc he!BY Tranzwarr on 10/27/2009 at 19:06
I believe the Democrats have dug a hole they won't be able to get out of by the 2010 elections. Having said that, the Republicans had better recognize that there are problems with the health care system that need to be fixed and they'd better come up with conservative solutions, that actually solve problems. It's not that there aren't problems, it's that the Democrats have decided to push through the most liberal solutions to the problems and leave the Republicans out in the hallway. If the Democrats do it without bipartisan support (and not just one or two Republicans) they will lose bigtime in 2010, bigger than anyone could imagine.BY Jimmy T. on 10/27/2009 at 21:07
Is it more than coincidental that all the lawmakers interviewed for this article had (D) after their name? Are there no ®s who are willing to comment on this question?BY F on 10/27/2009 at 21:29
Hey there Zippy, uh, I mean Zors…You got told by Tranz (good job). BTW, the fact that Dems are the minority is supported by your favorite pollster, Gallup. Here it is for you to chew on, and don't forget to swallow:http://www.americanthinker .com/blog/2009/10/gallup_conserva tives_outnumber .htmlBY sybilll on 10/27/2009 at 21:37
Let the Dems pass it on their own. If it works, the Repubs are finished. If not, the Dems are doomed.BY Dred on 10/27/2009 at 21:39

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