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The Big Question: Will Patriot Act reauthorization divide Dems, hamper healthcare?

By Maryann Dreas and Tony Romm - 11/12/09 02:33 PM ET

Some of the nation's top political commentators, legislators and intellectuals offer insight into the biggest question burning up the blogosphere today:

Today's question:

The House and Senate are moving forward with different bills to reauthorize the Patriot Act, which expires at the end of the year. Will this effort divide Democrats? And will it hamper President Barack Obama's call for unity on healthcare reform?

Sean Moulton, director of Information Policy at OMB Watch, said:

No I don’t think [it will divide Democrats].  Right now [reauthorization of the Patriot Act] is divisive, but I think a lot of common ground will be identified, once individual amendments are allowed to work themselves out.

It would have to be pretty divisive [to hamper healthcare reform], and there is not even much unity on healthcare reform.  As for party lines, we will see divides between Democrats and Republicans.

We’re in favor of reform to the Patriot Act.  The 'lone wolf' and NSL are two provisions that need to be reformed.  It’s past time to start looking at authorization that has been used too frequently, and authorization that hasn’t been used at all.

We’re trying to follow this [issue because] it deals with transparency and government accountability.

John F. McManus, president of The John Birch Society, said:

The cleverly named Patriot Act is a huge attack on the freedoms of the American people.  Passed in the aftermath of 9/11, it was read by few if any members of Congress beforehand.  Rather than being reauthorized; it should be allowed to die. There are probably a few Democrats who will opt to close it down.  But many Republicans will seek to have it continued because it was passed under the leadership of the GOP president George W. Bush.  As Mr. Obama's term lengthens, he is running into numerous obstacles (healthcare, cap and trade, Afghan troop increases, etc.). We look forward to disunity among many of his early followers and defeat of most of his proposals.

Justin Raimondo, editorial director of AntiWar.com, said

I feel sorry for all those well-meaning liberals who voted for Obama and are now disappointed and even outraged that he’s displaying the same reckless disregard for the constitution as his predecessor. The administration is invading the privacy and the constitutional rights of all Americans in the same way it is invading and occupying Afghanistan – yet more proof that we can’t have an empire and a free, constitutional republic. It is one or the other.

The Democrats will have no more division on account of the reauthorization than they already have over Afghanistan: In short, a few brave souls will speak out, but the rest will go along for the ride.

As to the healthcare debate: I think Rep. Dennis Kucinich is the exception that proves the rules. He is opposing the healthcare "reform" because he rightly sees it as a giant subsidy for the insurance companies -- and the Patriot Act reauthorization will convince him and other committed progressives that the President is not one of their own. Yet Kucinich is an isolated figure: the Ron Paul of the left. So, unfortunately, the Dennich Kuciniches and Ron Pauls will be relegated to "gadfly" status, as the bipartisan pro-war "center" rolls over them with ease.





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Comments (8)

all dems who vote not to reauthorize the patriot act can expect to hear from all Americans who will ask them what planet they are on…did they not hear about Ft. Hood? by the way…the government health bills have all kinds of parts to them that apply to our homeland security NOT our health care.who would listen to anyone but the brave 39 Blue Dogs who voted against the health bill…they are truly American heros!BY mindy on 11/12/2009 at 18:28
LMAOBY Legion  on 11/13/2009 at 00:07
In response to Mindy, if we stopped making war on Islamic countries around the world, we wouldn't have to worry about religious nutcases like the one at Ft. Hood feeling a need to defend their religion.You can either keep dropping high explosives and soldiers with automatic weapons all over the world, and hope that the Patriot Act lockdown protects you from the millions of people this antagonizes, or you can stop thrusting your hand in a hornet's nest. The choice is all of ours.BY Branko R on 11/13/2009 at 10:57
Mindy, Ft. Hood happened with the Patriot Act in place. If the Patriot Act did not exist, Ft. Hood still would have happened. So what was your point? On the flipside, if we didn't have two wars going on the middle east, it's highly likely that this would not have happened. Stress over soon being deployed to the middle east is what sparked this man to do what he did.BY Greg on 11/13/2009 at 11:10
Greg, 9/11 happen before our wars in the middle east. On the flipside Islam has hated and attack the West for a thousand years before the US was founded. You are a product of the great liberal eduction system of the last 30 years. So what's your point again . . .BY Cosmo on 11/14/2009 at 11:46
Cosmo, I suggest you research the US' carte-blanche support for Israel's policies of near-genocide, not to mention its propping up of numerous unpopular and undemocratic regimes in muslim countries (Egypt Saudi Arabia, to name but two) if you want to have some clue why 9/11 happened.BY Big Jim on 11/14/2009 at 17:36
"Dennis Kucinich is "an isolated figure, the Ron Paul of the Left". For now, perhaps. Remember the old saying " You can fool some of the people all of the time, you can fool all of the people some of the time, but you CAN'T fool all of the people all of the time".President Obama's lies and evasion will catch up with him, just as surely as "weapons of mass destruction" and the imagined Saddam-Al-Q"aida connection did with his predecessor…Then we'll see whose politics is marginalized and "isolated". Additionally, the problems, both international and domestic—especiall y economic—facing the Obama Presidency are substantially greater than those of Bush, and his margin for error, both in Afghanistan and otherwise, is far smaller.PEACE AND FREEDOM!!David K. MellerBY David K. Meller on 11/15/2009 at 15:36
I have no hope left. I always read that the American people are just inches away from realizing that their governement is completely corrupt. But that is not true. Just look at the comments made by Mindy and Cosmo here. There are a lot of Americans who actually like the idea of a facist state that snoops on its own people and bombs the hell out of everyone else. Somehow, Americans, for the most part, don't see the writing on the wall; and if they don't see it now, how will they ever?BY Mark Cox on 11/17/2009 at 13:54

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