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Pelosi bill: Jail for no insurance

By Dick Morris - 11/08/09 01:18 PM ET

By Dick Morris and Eileen McGann

The nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation reported that the House version of the healthcare bill specifies that those who don’t buy health insurance and do not pay the fine of about 2.5 percent of their income for failing to do so can face a penalty of up to five years in prison!

The bill describes the penalties as follows:

• Section 7203 — misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.

• Section 7201 — felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.” [page 3]

That anyone should face prison for not buying health insurance is simply incredible.

And how much will the stay-out-of-jail insurance cost? The Joint Committee noted that “according to a recent analysis by the Congressional Budget Office, the lowest-cost family non-group plan under HR 3862 [the Pelosi bill] would cost $15,000 by 2016.”

Obama’s bill only provides subsidies to help pay this enormous sum after families making about $45,000 have paid 8 percent of their income for insurance and after those earning a household income of about $65,000 have kicked in 12 percent.

The Joint Committee on Taxation noted that while the Senate Finance Committee version of the bill did not include criminal penalties, “The House Democrats’ bill, however, contains no similar language protecting American citizens from civil and criminal tax penalties that could include a $250,000 fine and five years in jail.”

Remember that simply buying catastrophic insurance, which may be all the young uninsured family needs, does not constitute having adequate insurance under the Obama bill. It has to be total, all-inclusive insurance for one to avoid the penalties in the legislation. That is because Obama wants to use these premiums from the currently uninsured to subsidize his program.

So Ms. Pelosi is requiring Americans to pay these steep premiums, or a fine of 2.5 percent of their income for not doing so, or, potentially, go to prison!

Anyone who is familiar with the U.S. prison system can attest to the large number of people incarcerated for similar white-collar offenses. That the House bill would treat failure to carry health insurance or pay the fine as tax evasion or willful nonpayment is amazing!

And where is the constitutional basis for requiring everyone to buy insurance? It is OK for a state to make drivers pay for automobile insurance? Driving is not a right, it is a privilege, and the state may regulate it by demanding insurance. Banks can require homeowners to buy insurance as a condition of their lending. But how does the federal government get the right to require a family to buy health insurance or face a civil penalty and, failing that, to face either a criminal fine or jail?

The tough penalties in the House bill are designed to keep insurance companies from opposing the bill. It was the relaxation of these penalties in the Senate Finance Committee version of the legislation that led the companies to reverse field and come out in opposition to the legislation. The insurance companies want to see their coffers swell when tens of millions of new customers are required to buy insurance. The more draconian the penalties for failing to pay them large sums of money to pad their bottom lines, the better.

The more you read this bill, the worse it gets.

Source:
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/66879-pelosi-bill-jail-for-no-insurance

Comments (55)

When we no longer have government by the People and for the People we have Tyranny. What makes it even worse is that only a few have recognized it…BY Farnsworth on 11/08/2009 at 14:32
How much more of this are we going to take until we're in the streets? Turn off the T.V. folks and wake the hell up!BY S. McCreery on 11/08/2009 at 15:09
Given the federal Constitution is silent about public healthcare, the federal government has no constitutional authority to regulate healthcare. Please consider the writings by constitutional experts on this issue.First, contrary to what Pelosi and other constitutionall y-impaired lawmakers might think, Congress has no power to regulate intrastate commerce."For the power given to Congress by the Constitution does not extend to the internal regulation of the commerce of a State, (that is to say of the commerce between citizen and citizen,) which remain exclusively with its own legislature; but to its external commerce only, that is to say, its commerce with another State, or with foreign nations, or with the Indian tribes." —Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson's Opinion on the Constitutionali ty of a National Bank : 1791. http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bank-tj.aspNext, the USSC has already tested the idea of Congress regulating medicine, deciding against Congress."Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously beyond the power of Congress." —Linder v. United States, 1925. http://supreme.justia.com/us/268/5/case.htmlOne reason that the corrupt federal government has greatly overstepped its constitutional limits in healthcare issues is this. Pro-big federal government, outcome-driven justices nominated by FDR perverted the reasonable interpretation of the Commerce clause (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3) in the 1940s.The bottom line is that the Congressmen who vote yes on Obamacare will make a handy list of lawmakers who need to be charged with treason for blatantly violating their oaths to defend the Constitution.Finally, the following words of Thomas Jefferson are appropriate for the federal government's exercising of constitutionall y nonexistent federal government powers where healthcare legislation is concerned."Where powers are assumed which have not been delegated, a nullification of the act is the rightful remedy." —Thomas Jefferson: Draft Kentucky Resolutions, 1798. http://tinyurl.com/oozooBY B. Johnson on 11/08/2009 at 15:27
Let's all have goose for Thanksgiving this year, it has already been cooked. Mr. Johnson, I know the founding fathers took great measures to prevent police states from developing but can you find where they anticipated a Pelosi state?BY jadedfellow on 11/08/2009 at 15:50
Nazi Pelosi is the one who belongs in jail, tyrannical bitch makes for a good lynch, I will not comply with this tyrannical bill, threatening American citizens with imprisonment is tyranny, she can kiss my a**! She is clearly mentally insane/delusional if she thinks she can actually do this and get away with it, she must think we are her sheep or something…DEAD WRONG!BY Laura on 11/08/2009 at 17:20
[***],Did you think no one was going to check your claim. 1) HR3962 does not have a section 7203 or 7201. Sections only go up to 571. 2) Felony is only mentioned one time on page 241 and refers to the Health Commissioner 3) Imprisonment or incarceration does not appear anywhere in the bill. However, prison does appear in the bill. It says if your incarcerated, you are in the public option, lucky dogs. 4) Why are you referring to HR 3862 in your oped? http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-3862BY JN7854 on 11/08/2009 at 18:53
In typical Morris fashion, the truth is twisted. No one goes to jail for not having insurance but for cheating on their tax returns. As I get it, the penalty for not providing for your healthcare would be $1500, which barely covers the increased cost the rest of us pay for those who don't have insurance. It may be messy, but it's probably fair. Why wouldn't Morris favor this "encouragement" that individuals do the responsible thing?BY Smilinjack on 11/08/2009 at 20:23
@Smilinjack: It's simply amazing that if you look at the text of H.R. 3962, there is no Section 7203 or 7201. Title IV of the document stipulates individual and employer responsibility, and Title V amends the tax code to include a penalty for those who fail to comply at 2.5%. What's even funnier is that [***] has left "[page3]" in his post to make it look like a citation showing where this information can be found. But a quick Google search of H.R. 3962 and Section 7203 yields NO RESULTS aside from right-wing whackjob fearmongering websites. And here's the little press release that seems to have started it all: http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=153583 The [page 3] [***] refers to must be the page in the letter put forth by a nutzoid Republican Congressman. Now what kind of sloppy journalism is it when [***] Morris can't bother to spend the 15 minutes it took me to research this and get to the bottom of it? He is clearly more interested in spreading fearmongering propaganda than he is in disseminating truth. And then he ends with "The more you read this bill, the worse it gets." He obviously has not read the bill and then dreamed up sections of it that simply don't exist. LOL Sad, truly sad…BY Melissa on 11/08/2009 at 21:35
The "president," peolosi and the entire breadth of the Democartic party are traitors to the trust of the American people, and should be tried as such. Right after Rangel…LOL!BY Reality Check on 11/08/2009 at 21:46
"Why wouldn't Morris favor this "encouragement" that individuals do the responsible thing?"Leftist fundamentalism at work. They know what's better for you than you know yourself. And to think the left makes such boogeymen out of religious fundamentalists .BY Hoss on 11/08/2009 at 23:06

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