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Already, 23 Dems have said they will vote ‘no’ on healthcare reform

By Mike Soraghan and Michael M. Gleeson - 09/08/09 05:18 AM ET

At least 23 House Democrats already have told constituents or hometown media that they oppose the massive healthcare overhaul touted by President Barack Obama.

If Republicans offer the blanket opposition they’ve promised, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) can afford to lose only 38 members of her 256-member caucus and still pass the bill.

Most Democrats opposed to healthcare reform argue it costs too much, imposes a new tax and fines businesses that don’t provide insurance to employees. Some fear that the bill would subsidize abortion.

Many other Democratic members, including those berated by protesters at raucous town hall meetings in August, are still undecided.
A lot could change before the vote, expected late this month.

Voting against a president from your own party is starkly different from defying a Speaker or a committee chairman, and Obama is stepping up his involvement, starting with a speech to a joint session of Congress on Wednesday night.

The Pelosi camp, for its part, sees no reason to be discouraged.

“The Congress will pass and the president will sign this year health insurance reform that will lower costs, retain choice, improve quality and expand coverage,” said Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami.

Pelosi has vowed to include in the bill a government-run insurance plan, commonly called a “public option,” to compete with private insurers.

Many centrist opponents of the bill don’t like the public option, or don’t want to vote on such a controversial plan when it’s unlikely to become law.

There’s a chance the House bill won’t include it. Obama has shifted from saying it must be in the bill to saying he wants it in the bill. House leaders have said they want to see a bill from the Senate Finance Committee before the vote, and that bill is unlikely to include a public option.

But deleting the public option won’t make life easier for Pelosi.

At least 60 liberal Democrats have pledged to vote against a healthcare bill with no public option, which they view as watered-down reform.

Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) has said dropping the public option completely would lose 100 Democratic votes.

Even Pelosi’s critics and skeptics have to concede that she has almost never lost in the House since becoming Speaker. The main exception is the first vote on the $700 billion bailout package requested by the Bush administration, which later passed.

She twisted arms one by one in July to pass a climate change bill despite deep skepticism among centrists and Democrats from manufacturing states. But some of the public backlash from that has frightened and angered centrist and vulnerable members.

Democratic critics have different reasons for opposing the bill, and their opposition varies in its vehemence.

Rep. Eric Massa (D-N.Y.) a supporter of a “single-payer” system, opposes it because the public option isn’t strong enough. Other “single-payer” supporters in the party’s left wing could balk as well.

Some are definitive. There’s Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.), a Blue Dog who is one of the most conservative members of the Democratic Caucus. He told a town hall meeting last month, “I would hope by now that everyone in this room knows that I am not going to vote for the healthcare plan.”

Rep. John Adler (D-N.J.), a vulnerable Democrat, was equally blunt. He told a group of constituents last month, “The bill that’s coming through the House, with or without the public option, isn’t good for America.”

Others, such as Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), say they can’t support the bill “in its current form.” The bill is widely expected to change before it goes to the House floor, but if Pelosi keeps the public option in the bill, many centrists will see it as a left-leaning bill.

Rep. Tom Perriello (D-Va.), who unseated an incumbent in 2008 by a scant 745 votes, said at a town hall meeting , “I am a ‘no’ now, but I really want to get to a ‘yes.’ ”

And plenty of others aren’t ready to take a position.

“I’ll do the best I can, but I don’t know what’s the right thing to do yet,” Rep. Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.) told the Los Angeles Times after a town hall meeting. “I don’t know what I’m going to do. I don’t even know what we’re going to be voting on.”



The following Democratic lawmakers have indicated opposition to the healthcare plan moving through the House.

John Adler (N.J.)
Jason Altmire  (Pa.)
John Barrow  (Ga.)
Dan Boren (Okla.)
Rick Boucher  (Va.)
Allen Boyd (Fla.)
Bobby Bright (Ala.)
Travis Childers (Miss.)
Jim Costa (Calif.)
Henry Cuellar  (Texas)
Parker Griffith (Ala.)
Frank Kratovil (Md.)
Betsy Markey (Colo.)
Eric Massa (N.Y.)
Jim Matheson (Utah)
Charlie Melancon (La.)
Walt Minnick (Idaho)
Tom Perriello (Va.)
Earl Pomeroy (N.D.)
Heath Shuler (N.C.)
Bart Stupak (Mich.)
John Tanner (Tenn.)
Gene Taylor (Miss.)


Source:
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Comments (188)

Parker Griffith is a freshman blue dog in Alabama's 5th. He is a doctor, and has called Obamacare "scary" and has promised not to vote for it. It won't save him — he voted for Pelosi as leader, so he will lose reelection. But he thinks he can keep his job by saying this stuff. There are 2 other democrats in Alabama who have said the same thing.BY Karen on 09/08/2009 at 07:18
Rep. Perriello gives all the body language and weasel language of someone who will say "yes". You need to remember he voted for Cap and Tax without even reading the bill. Then he will probably lose his re-election efforts.BY Lee Faust on 09/08/2009 at 08:00
C'mon, Democrats. Grow a pair and stand up to the right wing fanatics. Stop pandering to people who are fed garbage every day by Glenn Beck and his extremist co-conspirators in the right wing media. Vote for health care reform!BY doolindalton on 09/08/2009 at 08:02
Obama is now asking us what we would do. It's a little late for that. He promised when he was campaigning we would have 5 days to review any bill he signed and we would be able to give feedback on it. He lied about that, we haven't been able to even see bills 1000 pages big let alone give feedback to it. Now he's asking us what we would do all of a sudden like we ever had a chance. He's a liar. One question Obama. Why are there TWO health plans, one for 8.5 MILLION government workers and another for us common people? Please answer the question.BY VotersOfNY on 09/08/2009 at 08:13
this is b.s., a vote for this healthcare will run the country in the ground. Stupid democrats are bound and determined to bring down the USA.BY johnny glacier on 09/08/2009 at 08:17
Lloyd Doggett is another supporter notwithstanding his constituents's desires. He is also one of the first to characterize the attendees at his public meetings that objected to Obamacare as an organized mob. He'll be gone come the election of 2010.BY Ferd on 09/08/2009 at 08:19
@doolindalton is a eejitIf you want to see the direction this country is heading and where Obama the fascist wants us to go just look at Venezuela and his buddy Hugo Chavez.BY Regulas on 09/08/2009 at 08:22
Doolindalton, Everybody is for healthcare reform, JUST NOT THE TYPE PROPOSED. MEDICARE IS ALMOST BANKRUPT AND ITS 1/ 20TH THE size of what this would be. Extream co-conspiritors? How about a DELUSIONAL Democratic Liberal base? I bet you don't even have a job yet feel entitled to have everything paid for you.BY YoMamma on 09/08/2009 at 08:26
Doolindalton is one of three types of people: 1) Public Servant of some sort; 2) Organized labor of some sort or is dependent on such; 3) The "so-called" poor in this country of which most are only poor because of their poor decision making.Please get a life and get government out of mine. If my insurance company denies me coverage, I can still get treatment. If the government denies me coverage, I have to go to another country or suffer… The choice is simple… NO to single payer system and Obamacare…BY Phillip Marlowe on 09/08/2009 at 08:27
C'mon, what's your problem? You don't believe that if we just turn over health care to the government, everyone will get more and better care, and it will cost us all less? Given the record of virtually all our government's well-managed, cost-effective achievements, how could you harbor any skepticism? Drink the kool-aid and join the party!BY Mike on 09/08/2009 at 08:28

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