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Left claims 218 in sight for 'robust' public plan

By Mike Soraghan - 10/08/09 05:05 AM ET

Liberal tells House Democrats that they have nearly enough votes to pass their preferred version of health insurance reform.

Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.), the leader of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, told a closed-door caucus meeting that the group’s “whip count” showed it had 208 of the 218 votes needed to pass what liberals call a “robust” public option. That version would link rates to Medicare plus 5 percent.

Woolsey would not confirm the 208 figure in an interview, but three sources in the meeting said that is the number she cited.

“I said we have the votes to pass a robust plan,” Woolsey said. “This is without leadership stepping up and saying, ‘We’re for this.’ ”

Woolsey declined to provide a list of names to House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.), who has been tasked by leadership with keeping track of where the votes are.

Clyburn told Woolsey that his ongoing, informal tally doesn’t show the liberals’ version of the public option having that kind of support.

“That’s not the vote count he has,” said Clyburn spokeswoman Kristie Greco. “We’re not there yet.”

But any momentum liberals sensed early Wednesday was dampened after the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) announced its analysis of Sen. Max Baucus’s (D-Mont.) bill, noting that it would extend coverage to millions of Americans while also cutting the deficit.

Blue Dogs and other Democratic centrist are certain to note the CBO score as proof that the House bill should hew more closely to the Senate Finance Committee legislation.

Some House members, particularly centrists, questioned Woolsey’s 208 figure, noting that last Thursday the Progressive Caucus presented Pelosi with only about 150 names. Centrist Blue Dogs are infuriated by the continued push for a government-run plan they believe the Senate will never agree to.

And another Progressive Caucus source said the liberals’ whip count, begun last week at the behest of Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), found 176 solid “yes” votes, about 15 “leaning yes,” 30 undecided and 23 solid “no” votes.

The angst from the conservative and liberal ends of the caucus is a sign that House negotiations are finally getting serious and Pelosi is preparing to take the bill to the floor for the final push.

“Buckle up,” said Rep. Ron Kind (D-Wis.). “It’s almost game time.”

In the face of unified Republican opposition, Democrats are working to find the 218 votes they need within their 256-member caucus. The public option, which would compete with private companies to drive down costs, has emerged as one of a few key obstacles to getting that number.

Liberals want reimbursement rates for physicians to be equal to Medicare rates plus 5 percent. Centrists, especially Blue Dog Democrats, don’t like the public option, echoing Republican concerns that it will not just lower rates but put private insurers out of business.

Some Blue Dogs have agreed to a modified public option that wouldn’t be tied to Medicare. Instead, federal officials would negotiate rates individually with providers.

Ironically, though the Blue Dogs’ top issue is fiscal responsibility, the liberals’ option saves more money, $115 billion, than the Blue Dogs’ negotiated-rate compromise, which would save $25 billion more than having no government plan, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Centrists say other issues, like ensuring private insurers survive and correcting Medicare underpayments in rural areas, are just as important.

Leaders told members at Wednesday morning’s meeting that they have brought the cost of the bill to $925 billion with negotiated rates, the Blue Dog compromise. They need to find another $25 billion in savings to meet the $900 billion ceiling set by President Barack Obama.

So leaders set out a number of options Wednesday morning to find that savings, such as triggering Medicare-linked rates if negotiated rates don’t bring down premiums, or covering more people with Medicaid.

But the new proposals generated a lot of questions, as well as irritation from the most liberal and conservative members of the caucus. Woolsey asked why leaders wouldn’t just fight for their liberal version, since it saves much more than $25 billion.

Blue Dogs are frustrated that the caucus is still debating the public option, which they don’t expect to be included in the Senate health bill.

“The broader caucus is still spinning its wheels and mired in the public-option debate that many moderate Democrats don’t believe survives in the Senate or conference,” said Blue Dog leader Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.). “We are not giving the same kind of attention and energy to the other things that really matter in this bill.”

She said Democratic leaders in the House and Senate need to join with the White House to “pre-conference” a bill that can pass both chambers.

On Thursday, the Democratic Caucus is expected to take up the issue of taxes needed to pay for the cost of the bill, mostly premium subsidies for low- and middle-income people.

The Senate Finance Committee is working on a plan that would tax high-cost healthcare plans. But 150 House Democrats have signed a letter opposing such a tax, which is staunchly opposed by organized labor.

Democratic sources say that Pelosi is sticking with a plan for a surtax on individuals making more than $500,000 and families bringing in more than $1 million, possibly coupled with a $20 billion tax on medical devices.

Last week, White House economic adviser Larry Summers and health czar Nancy-Ann DeParle presented a long list of other possible revenue-raising measures to House leaders, such as a fee on brand-name drug makers. Democratic sources said nearly all the ideas were met with some form of opposition, except for limiting the size of health flexible spending accounts.

Source:
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Comments (41)

Why is there so much support for billing the middle class for health reform by reducing the size of flexible spending accounts? No.BY Brad on 10/08/2009 at 07:56
The problem with health care costs isn't the insurance part of it. (Insurance company profits = 3% of revenues). It's the claims part - and none of these bills is doing anything about that except increasing the number of people who can generate those bills. Anyone who thinks this will save money or do anything except weaken the US economy is delusional.BY F W Croft on 10/08/2009 at 08:59
going for the bare majority, 50% 1. nice way to govern the country democrats. restructure 20% of our economy on a bare majority.the democrats are such hypocrites. we need to vote people out of office (whatever party) until the next pols up get it thourgh their thick skulls.BY johnboy on 10/08/2009 at 09:39
Johnboy: I hate to remind you this country elected a president on a "bare majority" and we see what happened as a result. This is just more of the same. The American peolple were duped by a slick talking con-man in an Armani suit. Now we have to live with it and suffer.BY Reality Check on 10/08/2009 at 10:08
There's a word missing in your piece. "Liberal told…"? wtf?BY nber on 10/08/2009 at 10:17
If the Speaker had the votes she would bring a "strong public option" bill to the floor — she doesn't, so she hasn't.BY ProfNickD on 10/08/2009 at 10:39
It's time for all the Dems to get on board and do the right thing for people without health insurance, and support the House bill! There is alot of good work in these bills, it's time to step up to the plate and ignore these conservative fascists, they opposed social security, medicare, medicaid. They are the death panelists.BY Jeff on 10/08/2009 at 10:46
Jeff, I can see you have your hand out? I would imagine you dont have insurance and expect the governent to supply it for you? I have an idea, go out and get a job, get on the benefits program at work, and stop being a leach on society.BY Rob on 10/08/2009 at 11:48
Rob,I make over $100k a year as an independent consultant, I am 50 years old, and because of preexisting conditions my monthly health care payment increased 25% and my health care insurance broker tells me that I have to stick with that because he's pretty sure noone else would issue me a policy. And I've had/purchased health insurance since I started working in my early 20's. Luckily I have coverage, albeit is getting more and more expensive and who knows when they might decide to drop me. And I've got 15 years to go before I can get into a 'public health' care with Medicare.So, why should this be happening to me and many many like me? I've paid into the system my whole adult life and now I'm getting squeezed and am at risk of losing coverage. Why is that a good system in your mind? Why is that fair? Why do no other, absolutely none, of the rest of the developed countries have anything as cruel and dysfunctional as our system? Why do we spend more as a country on health care for poorer health outcomes? Isn't it apparent to you that we truly need to take a different approach?BY John H on 10/08/2009 at 12:46
I just wonder what this is going to cost me to help pay some low life's med bill more than we do now. I think the only change I'm going to see is the change the Government leaves me after taxes. Don't worry as soon as they take too much, I'll quit work smoke dope and let the Gov take care of me like everyone else. I can't wait! Maybe Cuba will send some of their medical technicians like they did for Venezuela.BY mark on 10/08/2009 at 12:50

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