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Pelosi seeks centrist support for liberal public-option healthcare proposal

By Mike Soraghan - 10/14/09 07:23 PM ET

Speaker Nancy Pelosi is seeking to modify the House healthcare legislation to bring centrists around to the more liberal government-run insurance option, hoping that will give her the strongest negotiating position with the Senate.

In a closed-door session with a diverse group of Democrats on Wednesday, Pelosi (D-Calif.) offered a $20 billion tweak in hospital reimbursement rates to rural lawmakers.

She said that if House Democrats pass the public option liberals support, they could ultimately have the more centrist version of the provision when the final bill is hashed out in conference with senators, according to some of those in attendance. But many centrists doubt that, and many would prefer no public option at all.

Liberals want a public option that has rates tied to Medicare, while centrists who could accept a public option want those rates to be negotiated.

The strategy of pushing the bill to the left in order to improve the House’s bargaining position in conference is supported by liberals. But centrists, like the leaders of the Blue Dog Democrats, call it a politically dangerous strategy that will cost Democrats seats in the 2010 elections.

“When we go into negotiations with the Senate, we’ve set a higher mark,” said Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.), a co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus who agrees with Pelosi’s strategy. “We’ll have a better chance of preserving the concept of a public option, whether it’s trigger or negotiated Medicare rates. To go in there with something diluted doesn’t leave us any room to negotiate.”

The Senate Finance Committee did not include a public option in its legislation, and several key Democratic senators have said such a plan cannot pass the Senate. But Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) has shown support for triggering a public option if certain requirements laid out by Congress are not met.

And interest has grown in giving states the option to have a public plan.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Friday that he expected a “robust” debate in conference committee.

He said he did not anticipate a vote on healthcare before the first week of November, which could put the vote right up against the Thanksgiving recess.

Pelosi also said in the meeting she believed she has the votes now to pass her more “robust” version of a public option. But she said that she wants to show unity among House Democrats rather than passing a bill with 218 members, the bare majority of the chamber.

Democrats are still smarting from the arm-twisting Pelosi employed to win 211 Democratic votes for a climate change bill in June (eight Republican votes put it over the top). Some say it led to the intensity of resistance that Pelosi has faced from some quarters of her caucus on healthcare.

A whip count being undertaken by the Congressional Progressive Caucus indicates that support for the liberal public option among House Democrats is just shy of the needed 218. There are “about 200” solid supporters, 15 leaning yes, 20 undecided and 30 “no” votes, according to a Progressive Caucus source. Of the 30 “no” votes, 23 are likely “no” votes on the overall bill, the source said.

Many centrist Democrats and essentially all Republicans are opposed to the public plan, calling it an unfair competitor to private business. But some centrist Democrats have indicated they’ll support a public option if reimbursement rates are “negotiated” rather than tied to Medicare.

Democratic leaders canceled their caucus meeting Wednesday in favor of a smaller group meeting in Pelosi’s office about the reimbursement rates, a flashpoint in the House public option debate.

There, Pelosi offered a key policy change to the “Medicare plus 5 percent” option being pushed by the Progressive Caucus and other liberal members.

Rural members have been irritated that the “plus 5 percent” went only to physicians, not hospitals. Hospitals under the “robust” option would be reimbursed at Medicare rates.

Rural lawmakers find that unfair, because in rural areas most healthcare is provided through hospitals, and there’s often only one in a region.

“Healthcare in rural areas is in the hospitals,” said Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.).

So Pelosi offered to give hospitals Medicare plus 5 percent as well, which would reportedly add $20 billion to the cost of the bill.

“I give them credit for truth in advertising,” said Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-N.D.), a Blue Dog who is focused on reimbursement rates. But he said adding reimbursements for hospitals is not enough to win his support for the House bill.

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Comments (17)

Pelosi should be seeking why Congressional approval numbers have been in the pits since2004. or maybe earlier!.. maybe Congress should be working for THE PEOPLE instead of their own political parties or special interest groups. Of course pigs could fly. This is meant for both Democrats and Republicans.. I now return you to the aides and lobbyists posting for their own agendas. i give it 3 hours before someone mentions acorn..BY Lloyd C on 10/14/2009 at 23:57
The number of representatives who remain undecided seems alarmingly high. I certainly hope they are hearing as much from their constituents on the issue of health care reform as they are from the insurance industry. This is not the time for the American public to be mere spectators of the political process. Lives hang in the balance.BY Melissa in Miami on 10/15/2009 at 00:41
It really doesn't matter what Pelosi wants, or even what I want. I think that Obama has decided that he's going to do what Olympia Snowe wants. End of story.BY rt on 10/15/2009 at 01:54
u guy gal's all notice when the dumbacrats want tosneak something in they move to the center b/c this country is right and not commie remember 2010/Nov./voteBY kk on 10/15/2009 at 05:29
Whether the public option is explicitly there or not, passage of any bill will move us incrementally toward the same result - socialized medicine. The bill may omit explicit language on the public option, or healthcare rationing, or compulsory insurance. But even without those measures, all of these will be visited upon us - just a little later, and by a more circuitous route. All of the bills grant wide discretionary power to bureaucrats. Obama controls those bureaucrats. So he can write regulations which implement the very measures that can't pass as explicit legislation. And whereas it might be possible to repeal legislation later on, the regulations and armies of bureaucrats spawned by them are all but impossible to eradicate. After all, Obama and other Democratic leaders have said publicly that their goal is a single payer system, but that we must be content to get there through a series of smaller steps.So we must stop this bill in any form NOW. The only way to do that is to make it absolutely clear to our representatives that THEY WILL BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE IF THEY SUPPORT IT. There is a website where you can pledge to vote against politicians supporting the bill. Representatives will then be informed of how many votes they are losing. It is called www.PledgeOfLiberty.comBY R Stevens on 10/15/2009 at 09:16
Strangely enough, a 1941(!) cartoon provides the best demonstration of President Obama's philosophy of governance and view of the medical system.Enter if you dare:BARACK OBAMA'S FAIRY PALACEhttp://naturalfake.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/barack-obamas-fairy-palaceBY naturalfake on 10/15/2009 at 10:49
Repeal the Antitrust Law excemption the Insurance Industry enjoys, something that no other Indsustry in the country enjoys, and then we will have true competition, not fake competition.BY Kentucky on 10/15/2009 at 11:01
We are engaged in a health care debate based upon a flawed premise that threathens to adversely effect all of us socially and economically for generations. Our country has succeeded by being centrist or a little on either side thereof. It is the ideal our founding fathers imagined in the creation of our country. Pelosi and Obama know they have a limited opportunity to take this country as far left as possible. Within the last two weeks we have witnessed young school children (without the brown shirts) standing in a line chanting praises to our leader and overt efforts by the White House and Congress to stifle dissent or comment. There is a chilling similarity to a certain European country in the 1930's. Wake up People; those who are ignorant of the past are bound to repeat it.BY RL on 10/15/2009 at 11:17
One thing about pelosie is that she doesn't care that her boys might be homosexuals. the democrats are going to get such a drubbing starting with the 2009 election. they are going to need health insurance to handle their brushes they get when they land on the sidewalk after being thrown out of congress.BY Lisa Minecough on 10/15/2009 at 11:49
Voting for pelosi is the same as voting for corzine in NJ. both are far left commie radicals antiamerican stalinistic marxist pinkos. But, to all NJ voters. If you like Daggett and Christie second don't waste your vote on Daggett unless you want 6 more years of tax and steal and redistribute for votes corzine. just think throwing corzine out of office will be cause for national celebration, dancing in the streets, drinking a few and telling commie corzine goodbye enemy.also cody on FOX network always says vote for the independent. yeah right, do we want 6 more years of corzine. i personally believe cody is a democrat liberal with the hair and all, but where is the ear ring?In NY conservative and republicans need to stick with the republican. there a current house race in NY and the consertive is takiing 24% of the vote from the republican who would win in a landslide if not for this usurping of votes. please use your brain what GOD gave you. Don't split your vote, you will only make democrats happy and keep them elected and you taxed.BY Elizabeth Franklin on 10/15/2009 at 12:50

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