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Speaker’s move left on public option draws centrist complaints

By Mike Soraghan - 10/21/09 07:31 PM ET

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s decision to tack left in the healthcare debate has prompted complaints from centrists and started a high-stakes vote-counting operation.

House Majority Whip James Clyburn’s (D-S.C.) whip team fanned out on the floor Wednesday afternoon to see if there were the needed 218 Democratic votes for the Medicare-based public option Pelosi (D-Calif.) has chosen for the final bill.

Leaders are planning to roll the bill out next week, and are hoping to vote the first week in November.

Pelosi has acknowledged she doesn’t have all the votes, but told members she thinks she’s close. But centrist Blue Dogs are hinting that they may have the votes to stop her.

“I can’t tell you we’ve whipped this, but there’s been less than 12 Blue Dogs willing to support this,” said Rep. Jim Matheson (D-Utah), the Blue Dogs’ co-chairman for communications.

The number 12 is significant, because it indicates that 40 of the 52 Blue Dogs might be ready to vote for it. If 39 or more Democrats were to join all Republicans in voting against a bill, it would fail on the House floor.

Many Blue Dogs are from rural areas where hospitals complain they’re shortchanged by Medicare. Others oppose a government-run insurance plan competing with private companies, fearing the government will have an unfair advantage and drive those companies out of business.

Many other vulnerable members from conservative districts fear their constituents will punish them at the polls next year if they support an expansion of government pushed by liberals.

Another complication is that Clyburn’s count only will determine support for the Medicare-based public option. Some Democrats are ready to vote against the bill for other reasons.

For example, Rep. Jason Altmire (D-Pa.) said Chief Deputy Whip Diana DeGette (D-Colo.) approached him on the floor to ask how he’d vote on the public option. He told her he’d support the public option, but still might vote against the bill.

“I think they’re miscalculating to think that the public option is the only issue,” Altmire said.

Altmire, a member of both the Blue Dogs and the New Democrats, opposes the income surtax on the wealthy that would help pay for the bill. But he notes that other members who support the public option might vote against it based on other issues.

For example, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) and other anti-abortion members fear taxpayer dollars might wind up being used for abortion.

 But supporters of the liberal approach said they believe they can get the votes. Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.), a vocal supporter of the public option, said he thinks that the Medicare-based option will end up not only in the House bill, but in the final bill. Pelosi has viewed the Medicare-based option as a bargaining chip with the Senate, saying that if the House passes the more liberal option, the final bill is more likely to include a public option with the negotiated rates favored by centrists. But Weiner said the political winds are at the back of the more liberal option.

“That’s the way it’s trending in the Senate because that’s the way polls are going,” Weiner said. He said that Obama’s ratings on healthcare are falling because he’s seen as backing away from the public option.

But polls have also demonstrated confusion in the public about what the public option is. Weiner said support is also growing among more centrist members to label the public option as an extension of Medicare, because it’s a well-known government healthcare plan.

“Simplicity sells,” Weiner said. “It is an idea that a lot of my colleagues who’d been reluctant to embrace a public option are embracing.”

Pelosi’s decision, announced at a closed-door caucus meeting Tuesday night, was a victory for the Congressional Progressive Caucus, whose members rebelled against a July deal between a group of Blue Dogs and House leaders that compromised on a public option with negotiated rates.

The Progressive Caucus started a whip count last month, which found about 200 of the 256 Democratic House members support “Medicare Plus 5.” Progressive leaders said the support of Democratic leaders could put the plan over the top.

But Blue Dogs also did their own whip count last month after Pelosi said there were 20 Blue Dogs who supported some version of the public option. Blue Dog leader Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.) said the survey found 12 supporters of the public option, but many of the rest said stopping a public option was not their top priority.

Source:
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/64225-speakers-move-left-on-public-option-draws-complaints

Comments (8)

kill the darn bill before it kills America. Its time to throw this sucker to the deepest cavern in the ocean and let the sulfur eating bacteria eat it. pelosi healthcare bill is worse then garbage.BY jake2 on 10/21/2009 at 21:44
For example, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) and other anti-abortion members fear taxpayer dollars might wind up being used for abortion. Gee, why would anyone think that. Didn't the president already say that abortions would not be covered? Of course he said that illegal immigrants would not be either he just didn't tell us that he was going to call them something else. So what are the dems going to call abortion now? Decreased population assistance? What a bunch of hypocrites. How many times have I heard someone like "I got gut's, just no brains" Grayson call the republicans horrible, heartless kilers because of the 11,000 a year that he claims die from lack of insurance. How about the 1.3 MILLION a YEAR who are MURDERED by abortion? What about them Alan, Nancy. anyone?????BY Patrick Michael on 10/21/2009 at 21:55
Throw the health care bill out ENITRELY, including ALL of its reforms. Government needs to shrink, not expand, and needs to stop giving itself infinite power. You want to take MORE money from the taxpayers? Why don't you give us some money to spend first without us having to obey your health care rules that we KNOW you will make us follow, such as having health care insurance being a law ( power not granted to the government by the US Constitution ) , or having to abide by your restrictions to even qualify for your healthcare while all illegal immigrants get it for free. The people need to see that we don't NEED ANYTHING NEW from the government, the government needs to solve our national deficit and debt problem by explaining to us why the RICHEST people in America who run businesses who are above the law and cannot be taxed got BILLIONS of dollars directly from OUR(all taxpayers) pockets while we SUFFER, have our loved ones get dropped off health insurance and die from lack of treatment/medicine, get shoved FURTHER into debt instead of being lifted from debt, and are becoming homeless and unemployed with no benefits and no way to get a job. Why don't you show the American people that the government can do something other than mass coordination of misinformation and bully us into doing what is in the government's best interest instead of the peoples'?BY caring american on 10/21/2009 at 22:16
This is not the bill America wants. Most will not be financially able to pay the fees attached to this bill…Yes we need health care reform or health insurance reform but not at a higher cost to the American people. This is the worst economy in decades so anything adding additional cost to family households won't do. Pelosi, president and congress are clueless and arrogant..Most of us do not fly around in private planes, Pelosi…with 6 figure yearly expense accounts on top of their annual salary.BY bailedout on 10/22/2009 at 03:23
The public option is the only way to go. Call it Medicare if you like. I'd sign up in a heartbeat. The delivery system we have now is unsustainable and everyone know it.BY Richard on 10/22/2009 at 05:52
Well as Harry Ried showed us yesterday attaching the public option to Medicare should be a non-starter for Obama. He said the final bill had to come in under $900 Billion and the "Dr Fix" to Medicare alone would be over $250 Billion, which Dems tried to pass as a stand alone bill rather than have it included in the cost of the bill. Must watch for further accounting tricks. Just wondering how much everyone's taxes are going to go up to insure some of the uninsured now and how much they will go up after Obama does his illegal amnesty legislation which will add millions more to our cost.BY tiredofit on 10/22/2009 at 06:03
How is it that the congress has only 25% approval in the polls but Obama has 52% approval when the congress is passing all of his policy initiatives? Are Americans that dumb that they can't reconcile that incongruity?BY Polonius on 10/22/2009 at 12:25
It's great that the BlueDogs have thought it through. There's atleast a 'half truth' in every point made about the legislation. It's totally amazing that the WH strategy, hence Dem leadership, can't galvanize on any wholistic tact. The initiative wreaks of 'a project too big' to manage; even to effect a decent start.Poor, Poor, Poor planning and tact. Drop back, create a foot hold, advance from there. (Or surrender.)BY KstJay on 10/22/2009 at 12:51

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