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Centrists vs. Pelosi: Blue Dog Democrats beginning to show spending fatigue

By Jared Allen - 10/21/09 07:33 PM ET

The reservoir of Democratic support for legislation to stimulate the economy — while adding to the deficit — is drying up.

Already faced with what many economists are labeling a jobless recovery, Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill are considering passing more measures to lower the nation’s highest unemployment rate in 26 years.

Most of the fixes Democrats are eyeing would add to the budget deficit, which was recently estimated at $1.4 trillion.

But fiscally conservative Blue Dog Democrats and the Democratic freshman class of 2008 are raising objections. Some members of these two factions reluctantly went along with the $787 billion stimulus package earlier this year, but they are not ready for a sequel.

“I think we have just got to get serious about the deficit,” said Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.), the president of the class of freshman Democrats. “I would have to really be persuaded of a dire situation and one that’s getting worse, frankly, to have any enthusiasm for a second stimulus.”

Rep. Baron Hill (D-Ind.), a co-chairman of the 52-member Blue Dog Coalition, said he would have to hear a “very compelling” justification for further adding to the deficit, even for the sake of fostering more job growth.


“My constituents, I think, have had it with spending,” Hill said. “And I concur with their sentiments.”


Republicans are targeting Hill’s seat in the 2010 cycle.

While the ingredients for another stimulus have not been finalized, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Wednesday made two things clear: Additional stimulus measures are needed, and Democrats will add to the deficit to pay for them.

Pelosi held a forum with top House Democrats and a team of economists whom Democratic leaders have entrusted with guiding them toward the best legislative responses to the recession.

Each of the economists who spoke to reporters following the session said everyone in the room had signed off on a strategy of temporarily ignoring the budget deficit for the sake of economic recovery.

“Despite the fact that we’re looking at an absolutely horrendous long-term fiscal problem… most of us around the table believe that at least a modest increase in the deficit, targeted very strongly on job creation, not a scattershot … would be appropriate,” said Alan Blinder, a former Federal Reserve and Council of Economic Advisers official during the Clinton administration. “I think this is a case where it’s both good policy and good politics.”

Hill said the Blue Dogs have not talked formally about their collective approach to further economic patches embraced by the White House, ranging from unemployment insurance extensions to $13 billion worth of one-time Social Security checks.

But the Blue Dog leader said there is far less appetite among the group for stimulus-based deficit spending than there was in February, when 10 Blue Dogs rejected the final $787 billion stimulus.

“The Blue Dogs are going to have to speak for themselves on that particular issue because we haven’t talked about it in our caucus,” Hill said. “But knowing many of my Blue Dogs, I think they would probably have the same views.”

Rep. Jim Matheson (D-Utah), another Blue Dog co-chairman, and Connolly both spoke about the greater level of public anxiety about the deficit, which they believe is catching up with disquiet about the economy and unemployment.

“There’s a growing concern about the deficit spending that we’ve encountered just in this calendar year,” Matheson said. “We have to be very careful about the way we’re running up our debt right now.”

Connolly agreed, adding that whatever Democratic consensus existed in February doesn’t necessarily exist now.

Borrowing to fund the $787 billion stimulus bill “was appropriate” earlier this year, Connolly said. “But it’s now October, the economy is growing … and I think we have to now reset the balance between needed stimulus and needed fiscal restraint.”

Many of the freshmen in Connolly’s class are vulnerable to GOP charges that they have helped balloon the deficit while creating fewer jobs than Democrats promised.

The White House and congressional leaders have argued that the stimulus prevented a Great Depression, claiming it saved many jobs. But some have acknowledged that the stimulus did not create as many jobs as they predicted.

Pelosi said she is considering a range of stimulus ideas, including an “array of initiatives” from the Appropriations Committee.

Despite her openness to another spending bill and her admission that controlling the deficit is a secondary priority, Pelosi’s aides maintain that Democrats are approaching job creation in a fiscally responsible way.

“[Wednesday’s] meeting with leading economists was critical as Congress formulates fiscally sound and economically effective policies to help create jobs and grow our economy,” Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami said.

Meanwhile, polls show that Republicans have yet to rid themselves of the fiscally reckless reputation they earned during their 1995–2006 reign over Congress, but they continue to believe that Democrats are now just as vulnerable.

“The deficit is a bill that we pass to our children and grandchildren in the form of higher taxes, slower economic growth, less freedom and a lower standard of living,” said Michael Steel, spokesman for House Republican Leader John Boehner (Ohio). “Anyone who isn’t deeply concerned about it is living in La-La Land.”

Source:
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/64227-blue-dogs-getting-spending-fatigue-wary-of-new-fixes

Comments (24)

this should be made clear to all americans. they want us to starve, and lose our homes.It is very clear that they dont care about the people.MAYBE THEY SHOULD LAY THEM OFF AND LET THEM LIVE ON UNEMPLOYMENTBY tammy on 10/21/2009 at 22:36
Tammy what are you talking about?BY AC1 on 10/21/2009 at 23:20
This does not bode well for the Dems getting Blue Dog support on HC reform. Between Pelosi tacking left and the bill costing more and more as the overall package is mended into one final version the House Democratic machine will need to use all its muscle to get enough votes to pass.BY gabe on 10/22/2009 at 00:16
And to think it only took them a year to get spending fatigue.BY Fishygov on 10/22/2009 at 03:38
Stimulus did not work because it did not provide enough employment to merit the cost. Bailouts to private companys was senseless. This should not be the government and taxpayers obligation to bailout these companys. Unemployment at an all time high and expected to go even higher yet this administration does nothing that would promote businesses hiring again. Bussinesses are afraid to hire for fear of not knowing what big government will hit them with next…All this stimulus and bailout money spent and take a look at our economy and unemployment rate…who did it help?????Was this political pay backs???BY bailedout on 10/22/2009 at 03:41
Generally speaking, the public did not know they were facing a depression until it became a campaign issue. When first informed, the government should have ducked and stayed away and this thing would already be over. Instead they got involved, nationalized more than a few large companies and got other big companies interested in the "giveaways". Now it is a mess, the money is gone and we are stuck with the tab. Big government, infrastructure spending and education spending at best might create a few temporary jobs. The solution was and still is a tax cut for every person paying, regardless of bracket and elimination of all corporate taxes. We would be good to go within a year, but I have no hope that these morons are capable of doing such a thing. And I mean both sides of the aisle.BY Doug Kinton on 10/22/2009 at 05:20
I remember watching the Blue Dogs on C-SPAN with their charts and graphs talking about our need for Pay-Go. If we needed to follow Pay-Go rules then, we certainly need to follow them now. Just because money was borrowed in the past does not mean that it is all right to continue borrowing ourselves into bankruptcy. We can not continue to say "he did it first" and think that makes it all right. It is time for "change" and the "change" has to be to STOP borrowing.BY tiredofit on 10/22/2009 at 05:50
Demand the stimulus money be returned and sink it all into corn dog futures. The net result would be about the same.The government cannot stimulate job creation, stop trying. The free market stimulates job creation. Screw wall street, drastically reduce business taxes and watch the job market and economy pick up at a record pace.BY Mark X on 10/22/2009 at 07:59
The Democratic left wants a command-and-control economy despite the rich history of failure such attempts have. Nancy and Harry will be asking next for a Stasi like the East Germans had.BY Banjo on 10/22/2009 at 09:02
Stimulus didn't work becauseIt wasn't intended to work for jobs. It was ALL about spending spree's, and paying off Geithner, Obama, Pelosi , Reid and the banks, wall street (most of which are former congressmen and or families of ) and Unions. It had nothing to do with creating jobs.BY Fred on 10/22/2009 at 09:09

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