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Centrists vs. Pelosi: Blue Dog Democrats beginning to show spending fatigue

By Jared Allen - 10/21/09 07:33 PM ET

The reservoir of Democratic support for legislation to stimulate the economy — while adding to the deficit — is drying up.

Already faced with what many economists are labeling a jobless recovery, Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill are considering passing more measures to lower the nation’s highest unemployment rate in 26 years.

Most of the fixes Democrats are eyeing would add to the budget deficit, which was recently estimated at $1.4 trillion.

But fiscally conservative Blue Dog Democrats and the Democratic freshman class of 2008 are raising objections. Some members of these two factions reluctantly went along with the $787 billion stimulus package earlier this year, but they are not ready for a sequel.

“I think we have just got to get serious about the deficit,” said Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.), the president of the class of freshman Democrats. “I would have to really be persuaded of a dire situation and one that’s getting worse, frankly, to have any enthusiasm for a second stimulus.”

Rep. Baron Hill (D-Ind.), a co-chairman of the 52-member Blue Dog Coalition, said he would have to hear a “very compelling” justification for further adding to the deficit, even for the sake of fostering more job growth.


“My constituents, I think, have had it with spending,” Hill said. “And I concur with their sentiments.”


Republicans are targeting Hill’s seat in the 2010 cycle.

While the ingredients for another stimulus have not been finalized, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Wednesday made two things clear: Additional stimulus measures are needed, and Democrats will add to the deficit to pay for them.

Pelosi held a forum with top House Democrats and a team of economists whom Democratic leaders have entrusted with guiding them toward the best legislative responses to the recession.

Each of the economists who spoke to reporters following the session said everyone in the room had signed off on a strategy of temporarily ignoring the budget deficit for the sake of economic recovery.

“Despite the fact that we’re looking at an absolutely horrendous long-term fiscal problem… most of us around the table believe that at least a modest increase in the deficit, targeted very strongly on job creation, not a scattershot … would be appropriate,” said Alan Blinder, a former Federal Reserve and Council of Economic Advisers official during the Clinton administration. “I think this is a case where it’s both good policy and good politics.”

Hill said the Blue Dogs have not talked formally about their collective approach to further economic patches embraced by the White House, ranging from unemployment insurance extensions to $13 billion worth of one-time Social Security checks.

But the Blue Dog leader said there is far less appetite among the group for stimulus-based deficit spending than there was in February, when 10 Blue Dogs rejected the final $787 billion stimulus.

“The Blue Dogs are going to have to speak for themselves on that particular issue because we haven’t talked about it in our caucus,” Hill said. “But knowing many of my Blue Dogs, I think they would probably have the same views.”

Rep. Jim Matheson (D-Utah), another Blue Dog co-chairman, and Connolly both spoke about the greater level of public anxiety about the deficit, which they believe is catching up with disquiet about the economy and unemployment.

“There’s a growing concern about the deficit spending that we’ve encountered just in this calendar year,” Matheson said. “We have to be very careful about the way we’re running up our debt right now.”

Connolly agreed, adding that whatever Democratic consensus existed in February doesn’t necessarily exist now.

Borrowing to fund the $787 billion stimulus bill “was appropriate” earlier this year, Connolly said. “But it’s now October, the economy is growing … and I think we have to now reset the balance between needed stimulus and needed fiscal restraint.”

Many of the freshmen in Connolly’s class are vulnerable to GOP charges that they have helped balloon the deficit while creating fewer jobs than Democrats promised.

The White House and congressional leaders have argued that the stimulus prevented a Great Depression, claiming it saved many jobs. But some have acknowledged that the stimulus did not create as many jobs as they predicted.

Pelosi said she is considering a range of stimulus ideas, including an “array of initiatives” from the Appropriations Committee.

Despite her openness to another spending bill and her admission that controlling the deficit is a secondary priority, Pelosi’s aides maintain that Democrats are approaching job creation in a fiscally responsible way.

“[Wednesday’s] meeting with leading economists was critical as Congress formulates fiscally sound and economically effective policies to help create jobs and grow our economy,” Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami said.

Meanwhile, polls show that Republicans have yet to rid themselves of the fiscally reckless reputation they earned during their 1995–2006 reign over Congress, but they continue to believe that Democrats are now just as vulnerable.

“The deficit is a bill that we pass to our children and grandchildren in the form of higher taxes, slower economic growth, less freedom and a lower standard of living,” said Michael Steel, spokesman for House Republican Leader John Boehner (Ohio). “Anyone who isn’t deeply concerned about it is living in La-La Land.”

Source:
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/64227-blue-dogs-getting-spending-fatigue-wary-of-new-fixes

Comments (24)

God forbid they explain or understand why the last stimulus failed so miserably before doubling down on the sequel. Its not a mistake because of the deficit implications, its a mistake because it wont work, because they don't know or care what they are doing. That happens when you don't even both to read the legislation and rush it through in the dead of night. How about going back to stimulus 1 and taking all that bulk of the money not yet spent and doing something with it, like tax cuts for businesses?BY Mark Buehner on 10/22/2009 at 09:10
I thought the Republicans were out of control on spending until I saw a Democratic Congress with a Democratic President! Now I know what out of control spending really looks like!Bring back the balanced budget amendment! NO MORE BORROWING!BY Tim McDonald on 10/22/2009 at 09:23
"The White House and congressional leaders have argued that the stimulus prevented a Great Depression, claiming it saved many jobs."Uh-huh. They left out the part where it prevented thousands of new cases of cancer, helped the salmon swim upstream, and prevented the sun from going nova.BY Mwalimu Daudi on 10/22/2009 at 09:39
Open state lines for insurance , let them compete , and keep the government out of it , how much tax payers money has beenwasted on this charade ? we the people said no to it , how many times do they got to be told NO ? we dont want the government taking over anything for us , hows about if they try to do there jobs , defend our country , save our constitution , be the voice for the American people , instead of being traitors and anti American to us and our country , Why is it if a parent denys medical treatment to there child or visa versa , its called murder , but if our government denys health treatment for we the people its called healthcare .?BY ruth on 10/22/2009 at 09:47
How's this for change: 7 Months After the Stimulus 49 of 50 States Have Lost Jobs. In February President Obama claimed the result of his stimulus bill would be the creation of 3.5 million jobs. Since then, the Nation has lost a total of 2.7 million BY tomas on 10/22/2009 at 10:12
enough blue dogs and liberal republicans will side with pelosi to give Obama another 500 billion to "stimulate" the economy. Any person voting for a bluedog or lib republican should be flogged.BY Damian on 10/22/2009 at 10:19
I concur FRED. In addition, I believe 15% of the Stimulus has been spent, so how much impact could it have had at this point in time? Remember the urgency of the Stimulus to avoid the unemployment rate going above 8.1% ? The bill couldn't be read or evaluated because it was so urgently needed to avoid a catastrophe. ( Similar to the current Health Reform legislation. It is Urgent, Americans don't have health insurance!!!!!! !!! Oh, by the way, no uninsured person will get any benefits until 2013, after Obama is re-elected or replaced.) I believe the White House calculated releasing the maximum cash flows closer to the 2012 election cycle, in order to grease the skids of Democrats.BY bl on 10/22/2009 at 10:51
The Circus , It's "Showtime" , All three rings are going all out to give us the biggest "sock-it-to-me" we have ever gotten. Ring #1 , Barack ObamaRing #2 , Harry ReidRing #3 , Nancy PalociIt's a laugh a minute folks , as the cavalcade of clowns , give their all…HW 10.22.09BY Howard Winter on 10/22/2009 at 11:09
A somewhat free-market economy, such as the US has had, recovers best when the rules of the game are clear and not expected to change for a while.The government is not now acting as a fair, impartial referee. It is acting as a major player and also a referee that is planning to change a lot of rules in the near future. With that environment, business owners are simply "hunkering down" and trying to reduce vulnerability. That won't increase employment.Extend the tax cuts, introduce no new programs, and propose deficit-neutral ways to improve existing programs - and watch the jobs increase.BY MKS on 10/22/2009 at 11:10
Why should any employer hire? They do not know what new taxes the Dems will foist on them, they do not know the increased costs they'll have to pay for medical insurance, they do not know what they'll be able to take out of the company because of the Dems demonizing execuitive pay, and they don't know if the deficit is going tincrease causing a stall in recovery. And the Dems just want to spend more money.BY jschmidt on 10/22/2009 at 12:01
Generally the Blue Dogs vote 80% of the time with the House leadership. The question is "do they have a real financial bite to save the budget or just a bark, and are really lap dogs?" After all they voted for a stimulus that did nothing save contain numerous earmarks.Blue Dogs or Lap Dogs?? That is the question.BY Walter Leon on 10/22/2009 at 12:46
Most of the posters here have better answers than the idiots in DC on how / where / why jobs are created in the USThe stats are simple:99% of jobs in the US are in the Small Business sector. That's right - 99` - 80% of all jobs created in the last 5 recessions were created by Small Businesses.What percent of Stimulas I and II was dedicated directly to Small Business? 00.0%How many months has elapsed since the bailouts began?12How many Politicians does it take to screw up the American Economy?BY GlennO on 10/22/2009 at 15:02
GlennO: "How many Politicians does it take to screw up the American Economy?" That's easy! 50% plus one, assuming there's no filibuster.BY Swen Swenson on 10/22/2009 at 21:59
Would it be asking too much to actually spend the "stimulus" money we're already on the hook for before obligating us to new debt and see how that goes first? I realize the Democrats are holding that money in reserve for showering on favored constituencies during an election year, but seriously, folks, enough is enough.BY SukieTawdry on 10/23/2009 at 00:39

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