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Temperatures rising on healthcare bill: Pelosi sees win; Republicans demand to see pricetag

By Mike Soraghan - 11/05/09 08:18 PM ET

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) predicted she will get the votes needed to pass healthcare reform as Republicans scrambled Thursday to obtain a cost  estimate they believe could derail the bill.

Pelosi insisted “we will” get the 218 votes Dems needed for passage. She must find supporters within her 258-member caucus because Republicans are united against it.

“It's coming together,” said House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.), adding that scheduling the vote for Saturday night helped because, “it's always easier to whip when people want to go home.”

President Barack Obama did some lobbying of his own Thursday, inviting members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus to the White House to discuss their concerns about covering immigrants. The president’s big push comes Saturday when he is to give a final pep rally to Democratic members in the Cannon House Office Building.

Meanwhile, Republicans are pressing Rick Foster, Medicare’s chief actuary, for a score of the House bill before the weekend vote. Reps. Dave Camp (R-Mich.) and Wally Herger (R-Calif.) have requested the cost estimate, but Foster told The Hill on Thursday that it is unclear if he will finish it  within the next couple of days.

Herger said that he’s “putting all the pressure we can” on Foster to get  the numbers.

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has put the cost of the measure at $894 billion over 10 years, noting that it would reduce the deficit by $30 billion over the same time period. Republicans believe the price tag of the bill is much higher.

In an e-mail to The Hill, Foster said, “ We’re trying to have it ready before the House vote, but I don’t know if we’ll succeed. There are a number of new or modified provisions in the bill…and the legislative language has only been publicly available for a short time.”

House Republicans believe a high score from Foster may convince some on-the-fence Democrats to reject the bill.

Republicans are not the only ones rallying members to vote no.

Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.), a Blue Dog who declared his opposition months ago, told Fox News on Thursday, “I’ve been spending a lot of time with my members who are kind of going from pillar to post saying, ‘Look, we don’t need this; we can’t afford this. Let’s think it through. Let’s do some bullets that make the system better rather than this shotgun approach.”

Meanwhile, as the newest member of the House, Rep. John Garamendi (D-Calif.), was finishing his first speech to the chamber on Thursday, Rep. Mike Doyle (D-Pa.) was pacing.

Doyle was anxious for the speech to end so he could resume his lobbying of anti-abortion rights Democrats.

As Garamendi concluded his address, Doyle sprang into action and was soon talking to Rep. David Wu (D-Wash.).

“It’s a process,” Doyle said as he bolted from the House floor and ducked into a leadership meeting in the suites of the Speaker. “Everybody has a different concern.”

Doyle is a senior lawmaker, but he usually doesn’t attend leadership meetings. What’s different this time is that Doyle is an abortion-rights opponent who wants to get the health overhaul passed.

That has made him a key broker in the final days of whipping, or rounding up votes, for one of the toughest votes for Democrats since they won control of Congress in 2006.

“He wants to see healthcare for this country, but he’s pro-life, and he doesn’t want to see taxpayer funds go to abortion,” said Rep. Brad Ellsworth (D-Ind.), who wrote the compromise legislation for which Doyle was trying to win votes. “But how do we get that ball moving forward?”

A host of concerns have come up as the countdown to a Saturday night vote ticks down.

In addition to abortion, Hispanic members are concerned that illegal immigrants will be excluded from buying insurance on the bill’s exchanges. Blue

Dogs are concerned about the cost. And vulnerable members in conservative districts are wringing their hands over Tuesday’s election results, in which Republicans reclaimed two governors’ mansions from Democrats.

The abortion compromise was turning into a contest of wills, with the U.S. Conference of Bishops on one side and Pelosi, a devout Catholic and a supporter of abortion rights, on the other.

Ellsworth said at least three Democratic abortion-rights opponents have agreed to support his language, but many others won’t because the bishops don’t support it.

“Other members felt like they needed the … blessing of the Catholic bishops,” Ellsworth said.

And the bishops, whose representatives he met with Thursday morning, are insisting on an amendment authored weeks ago by Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), which would block any subsidies from paying for abortion. Abortion-rights supporters said that could mean that insurers might have to end abortion coverage in order to get access to the customers in the exchanges.

Ellsworth has come under attack from some quarters of the anti-abortion-rights community for drafting what they consider a weaker alternative to the Stupak language.

One group accused Ellsworth of “bayoneting” them “in the back.” But Ellsworth defended himself, saying he believed Stupak’s amendment wouldn’t pass, and the bill as it stands might pass, which he didn’t find acceptable. Stupak, however, believes he would have a majority of members support his measure if it were granted a floor vote.

“When you’re going into battle, you need to have a contingency plan,” Ellsworth said.

Doyle worked the floor on Thursday like a candidate at a Rotary Club.

As a vote on unemployment compensation wound down, Doyle waved Ellsworth to his seat. Their conversation was so consuming that Doyle almost didn’t register a subsequent vote in time.

Doyle lobbied Democratic abortion-rights opponents one by one, including Reps. Steve Driehaus (Ohio), Tim Ryan (Ohio), Jim Langevin (R.I.) and Joe Donnelly (Ind.).

Then he went to talk to Pelosi. Doyle talked with his hands, and Pelosi put her hands on her hips and frowned. After that, Doyle sat down with Clyburn.

Asked if the conversations were going poorly, Doyle said, “No. You misread that one.” But he didn’t give a different reading before ducking into the Speaker’s hallway.

Nearby, Rep. Lois Capps (D-Calif.), an abortion-rights supporter, who brokered the abortion language in the pending bill, talked with Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio). And Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.), the sponsor of the healthcare package, was leaning over Rep. Lincoln Davis (D-Tenn.), an abortion-rights opponent, who had said he couldn’t support the Ellsworth language.

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.), one of the chief deputy whips, walked the floor with a clipboard.

Bob Cusack, Molly K. Hooper and Jeffrey Young contributed to this article.

Source:
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/66659-temperatures-rising-on-healthcare-pelosi-sees-win-gop-demands-pricetag

Comments (40)

Big change in Congress from the passage of this bill come 2010.BY bailedout on 11/05/2009 at 21:04
It is now being reported that bogus bama is coming out tomorrow(becaus e he is a lame duck) for pelosi abortion bill. I say stick this healthcare where the sun don't shine. All the Yes voters won't be in Washington DC to institutie this boondogglemuck of a rape the taxpayer bill to pay for ACORN government doles of obama. We don't like the rev wright type of marxist government,. wright always did hate America. I don't know why he even stayed.———————————-obama will look the camera in tghe lens and lie to millions of people.KILL obamacare before It KILLS AmericaBY jake2 on 11/05/2009 at 21:07
If the Republicans actually do take over Congress next year because of this one bill, you know good and well they will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to repeal it or otherwise prevent its enactment.BY Kevin on 11/05/2009 at 21:10
Wanta bet kenBY jake2 on 11/05/2009 at 21:25
Speaker Pelosi seems to be out of touch with reality. HR 3962 is collective insanity. If you support this bill, I urge you to cut back on your drinking and go back and get your GED.BY Balto on 11/05/2009 at 21:39
AARP sold out their members. Pelosi has broke her promise to keep the final bill up on the website for 72 hours. Her word isn't worth much. And the Medicare actuary will not have the medicare costs figured before the vote. So typical of the Dems totry to push this through without all the info, trying to sneak it past the voter. This bill is a disaster for our medical system.BY jschmidt on 11/05/2009 at 21:39
Kevin ..The Republican takeover next year will be by an influx of solid Conservatives. The RATs were put on notice Tuesday. All of ZER0 and his Vice President's (who attracted a whopping crowd of 150) appearances in VA, NJ, and NY ended up in two MAJOR victories and one squeaker which was their heavily financed and marketed candidate versus a guy who didn't ive in the district, was completely unknown, had very little funds, and no major Party backing. In fact, he was attacked by both the DimoRAT AND Republican machine. And he came within 3.7% of winning in a district that went for Hopenchange last election.They ignore the rapidly changing tide, and the erosion of Hopenchange's capital at the risk of their Party's demise! They can pin everything on this massive government takeoever of private industry and persoanl freedom and yet lose EVERYTHING immediately afterwards. And it WILL be overturned!BY DJ on 11/05/2009 at 21:57
Remember that President Obama has repeatedly assured Americans that illegal aliens (properly) will not be covered under these health care reform plans. Let's see if he keeps his word or if he breaks his promise and caves to the demands of the ethnocentric Hispanic Caucus. As is stands now there are huge loopholes in HR 3692 that, as the CBO shockingly reported, would cover 2.5 million more illegal aliens than HR 3200!BY JoeR. on 11/05/2009 at 22:02
In my previous comment I should have stated: "ended up in two MAJOR victories FOR THE REPUBLICANS .."BY DJ on 11/05/2009 at 22:02
Let's give Nancy Pelosi credit for being focused, okay, obsessed with passing legislation that accomplishes the goals set forth in the 11/05/09, 10:29 am article by Armstrong Williams ( in pundits blog).BY Bruce on 11/05/2009 at 22:05

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