MSNBC's Jansing to Dem senator: Is the party overplaying its hand on Russia?

MSNBC's Jansing to Dem senator: Is the party overplaying its hand on Russia?
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MSNBC anchor Chris Jansing asked Sen. Ron WydenRonald (Ron) Lee WydenLobbying World Overnight Regulation: House to vote on repealing joint-employer rule | EPA won't say which areas don't meet Obama smog rule | Lawmakers urge regulators to reject Perry plan New tax plan will hinder care for older Americans MORE (D-Ore.) if "Democrats risk overplaying their hand by jumping all over" the story of Donald TrumpDonald John TrumpDems win from coast to coast Falwell after Gillespie loss: 'DC should annex' Northern Virginia Dems see gains in Virginia's House of Delegates MORE Jr.'s meeting with a Russian lawyer with alleged ties to the Kremlin.

The question came after MSNBC showed video of two congressmen, Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) and Ted Lieu (D-Calif.), bringing a blown-up Time magazine cover to the house floor and reading Trump Jr.'s emails to get them into the congressional record.

"Are you worried at all that Democrats risk overplaying their hand by jumping all over this story?" Jansing asked. "Should it be left to those of you who are members of the relevant committees and to investigate — the investigation being run by Robert Mueller?”

Wyden responded by saying "the attempt to collude" was important for House members to underscore.

"All members have a right to weigh in," replied Wyden. "But my bottom line is if you take Donald Trump Jr.’s own admissions and the emails — this was an attempt to collude. Now, they keep trying to change the story. There are at least four versions."

“But you know that that’s not a legal term, 'collusion,' " Jansing noted.

"What it means is you have people getting together, usually in secret, to do something illicit," retorted Wyden. "And I think that’s very troubling. And if you look at the fact that the high command of the Trump campaign went into those meetings knowing that this was a Russian who was going to give them information that would be helpful to their campaign, they should have walked away.”

The president's attorney, Jay Sekulow, said on five Sunday morning political shows that President Trump was not aware of the Trump Jr. meeting until news broke on it in a New York Times exclusive on July 9. He also said the meeting was not illegal.

"The president was not aware of that meeting; did not attend that meeting,” Sekulow said on ABC. "Donald Trump Jr. himself said things should’ve been done differently. Having said that again, none of that is [in] violation of the law. That’s more process."