Geithner meets Murray amid fears lawmakers might not stop fiscal cliff

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner met with Sen. Patty MurrayPatricia (Patty) Lynn MurrayCDC director to miss fourth hearing because of potential ethics issues Week ahead: Lawmakers near deal on children's health funding Ryan suggests room for bipartisanship on ObamaCare MORE Thursday amid increased fears in Washington that Congress might decide not to act to prevent the nation from going over the so-called fiscal cliff.
 
Murray, (Wash.), the Democratic co-chair of the 2011 deficit supercommittee, recently said that Democrats would allow all of the Bush tax rates to expire and then seek to renew lower rates for the middle class, unless Republicans agree to raise taxes on the nation’s highest income earners.
 

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As Treasury secretary and one of President Obama’s most trusted advisors on economic issues, Geithner is in charge of guiding the nation’s fragile economic recovery. He recently met with Euro zone leaders on the North Sea island of Sylt and in Frankfurt to urge dramatic steps to address the debt crisis that has contributed to a worldwide slowdown.
 
Geithner is keen to avoid the chaos that would result if Congress careened over the fiscal cliff, raising speculation about whether his meeting with Murray might be an attempt to rein in threats about the fiscal cliff.
 
A senior Democratic aide familiar with the afternoon meeting, however, said it was a regular “check in” and not a scolding session.
 
The aide said the expiring Bush tax rates and automatic spending cuts were likely discussed among other topics.
 
Some independent observers have expressed concerns Congress will not prevent automatic spending cuts and looming tax increases, which they warn would shock the economy.
 
Murray fueled those anxieties when she delivered a stern message to Republican leaders during a recent speech at the Brookings Institution.
 
“If we can’t get a good deal, a balanced deal that calls on the wealthy to pay their fair share, then I will absolutely continue this debate into 2013 rather than lock in a long-term deal this year that throws middle-class families under the bus,” she said.
 
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Democratic lawmakers say the sentiment she expressed is gaining support among colleagues.
 
“There are more people today than before that say let this all just expire out, but the biggest concern is how will the markets respond and that’s what people are nervous about,” said Sen. Mark BegichMark Peter BegichPerez creates advisory team for DNC transition The future of the Arctic 2016’s battle for the Senate: A shifting map MORE (D-Alaska).  
 
Begich does not think the markets would not be shocked if the Bush tax rates expire and spending cuts take effect because they have had ample warning.
 
“A lot of this is getting worked into the scenario,” he said. “Because more and more people are talking about it, the market is starting to adjust now rather than have a shock in December.”
 
Some policy experts disagree and fear the reaction would be more extreme.
 
“My nightmare would be we fall off the cliff and the two parties start negotiating and those negotiations take weeks or even months,” said Rudolph Penner, a fellow at the Urban Institute and former director of the Congressional Budget Office.
 
“The end result on the economy could be much worse than the scenario painted by CBO,” he added, in reference to the budget office’s estimate that going over the cliff could cause a mild recession.
 
“You’d have incredible uncertainty and even more disillusionment about how our political system is working,” he said. “There would be quite a reaction on the stock market and bond market.”
 
Penner said he believes there is “a growing risk” Congress will fail to compromise before reaching the cliff.
 
Democratic lawmakers say Republicans are to blame for refusing to cede ground on taxes.
 
“There’s no discussion, no ability to cooperate,” said Rep. Peter WelchPeter Francis WelchClinton mulls role in 2018 midterms Trump talks tough but little action seen on drug prices Frustrated with Trump, Dems introduce drug pricing bill MORE (D-Vt.), who believes Democrats should let all the Bush tax rates expire if Republicans do not agree to raise taxes on millionaires.  
 
“The Republicans in the House just passed an extension of all the Bush tax cuts so anyone who thinks that there’s a likelihood that we can sit down and come to some compromise hasn’t been watching what’s been happening,” he said. “There’s no evidence that compromise is within reach.”
 
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“Congress must take action to eliminate both the threat to our economy posed by the looming small business tax hike and the threat to our security posed by the defense sequester,” they wrote.
 
Reid responded by urging House leaders to pass a Senate-approved bill to extend income tax rates for families earning below $250,000.
 
“Right now I would say the momentum is on the side of people saying, ‘OK, lets go over the cliff and put it all back together again next year,” said Steve Bell, senior director of the Economic Policy Project at the Bipartisan Policy Center. “Republicans don’t think they can cut spending any other way and Democrats want to break the back of Republicans on taxes.”
 
Sen. Sheldon WhitehouseSheldon WhitehouseSenate Finance Dems want more transparency on trade from Trump Trump, Kushner meet with advocates on prison reform Democrats search for Russians — any Russians — for collusion story MORE (D-R.I.) said there could be “significant advantages” to letting the tax rates expire and automatic spending cuts take effect.
 
He said it would give deficit-reduction talks early next year a “real sense of urgency and importance” and “release some of the Republicans from the Grover Norquist oath.”
 
Democrats see the Taxpayer Protection Pledge authored by anti-tax activist Grover Norquist as a major obstacle to reaching agreement on taxes. Almost every Republican lawmaker has signed the pledge, which requires them to vote against all tax increases.