Pawlenty encourages leaving health reform up to states

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty encouraged leaving health reform up to the states Sunday, saying the federal government had too poor of a track record with running entitlement programs.

"We need to have a clear understanding of what the federal government does well and what should be left to the states," Pawlenty, a potential 2012 hopeful for the Republican presidential nomination, said on ABC's "This Week."

During a conference call with reporters Thursday night, Pawlenty had said "asserting the 10th Amendment may be a viable option" in the face of federally imposed changes to the healthcare system. The governor asserted Sunday, though, that his comments were "not so much a legal issue as a practical matter."

Still, Pawlenty stressed that the federal government had an "abysmal" record of running such programs, and that the "monstrosity" of a health insurance exchange would be no different.

"Every major entitlement program... is on a pathway to bankruptcy," Pawlenty said.

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Pawlenty, calling healthcare experiments at the state level "the lab of democracy," brought up Massachusetts and Tennessee as programs that should give rise to concerns about healthcare programs at a national level.

Sebelius, while acknowledging problems with the out-of-control costs in Massachusetts and a Tennessee experiment that "did crash and burn," said it would be "impossible" to take health reform on a state-by-state basis.

"We need a national strategy," Sebelius said.

Pawlenty also said Sunday that "there's a legitimate concern" about the coverage of abortions under a national healthcare plan, saying it needed to be "very clear in the bill" that such services wouldn't be covered.

Sebelius said there was no cause for concern. "That's what [President Barack ObamaBarack Hussein ObamaGOP rep: North Korea wants Iran-type nuclear deal Dems fear lasting damage from Clinton-Sanders fight Iran's president warns US will pay 'high cost' if Trump ditches nuclear deal MORE] intends that the bill he'll sign will do," she said.