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Buffett tells Dems rich need to pay more

By Alexander Bolton - 09/10/09 04:40 PM ET

Warren Buffett, the renowned investor and the world’s second richest man, told Senate Democrats that wealthy Americans need to pay higher taxes, giving Democrats something to mull as they address healthcare reform and soaring federal deficits.

Senate Democrats met with Buffett for more than an hour over lunch Thursday, peppering him with questions about the economy, said lawmakers in attendance.

“He said rich people are not paying enough taxes,” said Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.). “It was interesting to see someone who is such an aggressive capitalist, who believes so much in our capitalist system, saying we’ve got the scales way too heavily toward people who are very, very wealthy.”

Buffett told lawmakers that because of the cuts to the capital gains tax passed under former President George W. Bush, he pays taxes at a lower rate than some of his company’s employees.

It is an argument the investor has made before. Buffett said he paid a 16.5 percent tax rate on all his income because the tax rate on investment dividends and long-term capital gains is only 15 percent.

By contrast, a single employee at Buffet’s firm, Berkshire Hathaway, who earns between $33,000 and $83,000 must pay a 25 percent federal income tax rate.

Sen. Ben Nelson, a centrist Democrat from Nebraska, said he wasn’t sure whether Buffett’s chat would embolden his colleagues to raise taxes.

“I don’t know that people will move toward tax increases,” he said in reference to healthcare reform funding. “Tax is still for a four-letter word, and I think there are other ways to pay for this than raising taxes.”

In 2003, Congress cut the capital gains tax from 20 percent and created a separate 15 percent tax rate for dividends. Before then, dividends were taxed at the ordinary income rate, which is 35 percent for top earners.

Both tax cuts are due to expire at the end of next year.

Senators were eager to hear from the famous “Oracle of Omaha” as they struggle to solve the nation’s economic woes, which have helped drive Congress’s approval ratings to new lows.

Buffett told lawmakers that the long-term economic outlook of the nation was strong but declined to predict when the recession would end.

“People wanted to know what was going to happen in the next six months and he said, ‘I can’t tell you,’ ” recalled one participant.

Buffett told lawmakers that improving education and ensuring broad opportunity would help the nation grow economically over the next decade, but what most perked up some ears was what he had to say about taxing the rich.

Sen. Byron Dorgan (N.D.), chairman of the Democratic Policy Committee, who invited Buffett to the lunch, said colleagues wanted to hear the wisdom of an economic genius who draws 30,000 people to Berkshire’s annual meeting in Omaha, Neb. Buffett has met with Senate Democrats several times over the past few years.

“There were a lot of questions about the economy and his assessment of financial regulation,” said Dorgan.

Buffett shared with lawmakers his “common-sense approach to capitalism,” said one attendee.

He told lawmakers that they should overhaul the nation’s financial system in a way that allows investors to do well but also imposes a sense of responsibility on Wall Street.

Buffett supported President Barack Obama during the 2008 presidential election but has since criticized some of the president’s policy proposals. Earlier this year he called a cap-and-trade proposal to limit greenhouse gas emissions a “regressive” tax.”

Buffett has also urged Democrats to scale back their policy agenda to focus on fixing the economy.

The billionaire investor called the Employee Free Choice Act a “mistake.” The legislation, which would overhaul labor laws, is a priority of unions and many liberal Democrats.

But Buffett and Senate Democrats put aside their policy differences on Thursday to focus on the nation’s sluggish economy.

He gave a pep talk to some lawmakers who are wondering if the nation’s best economic days are past.

“He’s a real optimist and thinks this is a great country and our best days are ahead of us,” said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).

One lawmaker who attended the meeting said that Buffett gave the audience a lesson on the economic history of the world, touting the U.S. system as one that unlocks individual potential, striking a contrast with totalitarian countries that limit economic freedom.

Lawmakers said it was refreshing to hear a positive assessment of the nation’s economic system after listening to months of criticism from the left about capitalist excess and the inability of markets to self-regulate.

Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, said the cap-and-trade proposal did not come up.

Many senators saw their own portfolios shrink as stock markets plunged over the last year, and no doubt would have liked to hear some personal stock advice from the market guru.

But Buffett said lawmakers didn’t invite him to ask for stock tips.

“They didn’t ask for any, they must have known how my recent ones worked out,” said Buffett, who has lost about $25 billion in wealth because of the recession, according to Forbes.com.

He declined to otherwise comment on his discussions.

Source:
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/58129-buffett-to-meet-with-senate-dems

Comments (94)

Enough with Warren Buffet and his idea of raising taxes. Even the so - called rich are poor in comparison to Warren Buffet. Of course he doesn't care what the tax structure is…he is so wealthy high taxes will never have an effect on his bottom line. Let him speak for himself when he talks about raising taxes or let him pay the tax for all of us. Democrats had better stop surrounding themselves with people who will only tell them what they want to hear. I believe that's what George Bush did for 8 years and look where that got the Republican Party!!! Warren Buffet is not God.BY Fran on 09/10/2009 at 18:16
Unless you're a millionaire, you will certainly agree with Buffet. But, GOPerville thinks the rich are being unfairly treated when they have to pay their fair share of keeping the country going. Only the deranged can feel sorry for those who already have more than they need. Yet, it is the warped right who try to make the poor out to be the oppressors of the rich. Talk about turning the world upside down! The Bible tells us, "Beware of those who call good, evil, and evil good".BY jobangles on 09/10/2009 at 18:35
If this idiot has so much money why doesn't he give it to the US say about a trillion or so?????? He can but everyone in the US health care the frickin braggert. Buffet put you money where you mouth is!!!!!!!!!!!!! !BY Macv on 09/10/2009 at 18:41
I think it is a great idea for Warren. However higher capital gains taxes freeze capital. It is likely the losses in the stock market would have been greater if holders were facing a big capital gain if they sold. We need free flow of capital. Real estate investments enjoy tax deferred status if reinvested. Stocks used to, why don't they now? Raise taxes on cap gains that are moved out of the market, lower them on reinvested money.BY Liability Warrior on 09/10/2009 at 18:50
Warren pays 16.5% on his billions and he wants to stifle business(how many have his money) investment. Gosh, it sickens me that(1) his attitude sucks and (2) he works with Harry Reid, the Nevada land crook.BY mj loehrer on 09/10/2009 at 18:54
Yes - Warren Buffett and all other wealthy democrats should be forced to pay higher taxes.Congress should immediately launch an investigation to reveal and punish all democrat politicians, czars, and supporters who have habitually disregarded their patriotic duty to pay taxes.BY Davole on 09/10/2009 at 19:48
Warren Buffett is free to write a check to the Treasury if he feels undertaxes. Other than that, those of us who are trying to build wealth, would like him to keep his opinions to himself. He cannot possibly believe the government is a good steward of the tax revenues they already receive. No amount of tax revenue is going to turn this pigs ear into a silk purse.BY Bill on 09/10/2009 at 19:50
you could take 95% of Buffets money and he would still be well off. Hey Warren send your money to the wasteful government, let me keep mineBY dean719 on 09/10/2009 at 20:04
If Mr. Buffett had given his money to the government instead of to the Gates Foundation, I would have a little more respect for his opinions. I would love to hear how he thinks that healthcare reform can be paid for except by raising taxes and having our children and grandchildren in hock for the rest of their lives. He doesn't have to pay 16% taxes. he could pay 50% if he wanted to. I don't think the IRS would send it back if it was a gift.BY Joyce on 09/10/2009 at 20:57
Buffet is a wise and ethical man. Nice change of pace on Wall Street. He is right, the gap between rich and everyone else has turned into the grand canyon. Shameful greed is not an American value. Taxes should be raised on the megarich.BY michael mmcleary on 09/10/2009 at 21:11

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