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Liberals confident in public plan chances

By Jeffrey Young - 10/24/09 05:00 AM ET

Hopes are running higher than ever for supporters of creating a government-run public option as part of healthcare reform.

The question is not settled and the healthcare reform project itself is far from guaranteed to succeed but liberals see mounting evidence that their position is going to prevail.

Supporters of the public option perceive a tide turning their way –and sweeping up previously reluctant Democrats. “I think people are sensing an inevitability that it’s going to be in the bill,” said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio). “There is momentum working here.”

Democratic leaders in the House and Senate still have key decisions left to make and liberals remain nervous that President Barack Obama’s interest in attracting Republican support for reform is stronger than his preference for the public option.

But mounting evidence suggests that it is no longer a question of whether healthcare reform will include a public Instead, it has become a question of what kind of public option there will be.

“I think there’s little doubt about it at this point. We’re definitely going to see a public option in both of those bills,” said Richard Kirsch, the national campaign manager of Health Care for America Now, a union-backed liberal activism group.

Although House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has not yet secured the 218 votes she needs to pass either of two proposed versions of the public option, there is little chance the legislation will contain no such plan. “It definitely will be in the House bill,” said Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.), who chairs the Energy and Commerce Committee’s Health Subcommittee.

In the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has strongly signaled his intention to include a public option in healthcare reform legislation by shopping around a compromise proposal that has gotten the nod from liberals and the tentative acceptance of a handful of centrists.

Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee Chairman Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), has long cited an alliance with as many as 52 Democratic senators who support the public option. That number has grown, Harkin said Friday.

“I thank that maybe three or four, five – somewhere in there – who were … a little bit skittish about that have become more inclined to support some sort of public option,” Harkin said. If Harkin’s assessment is correct, Reid would be as few as three senators shy of the 60 votes he needs to defeat a filibuster against the healthcare reform bill. “I firmly believe that we have 60 votes to proceed,” Harkin said.

Liberals see a more advantageous dynamic at play than they did back in August. Not only were angry outbursts at town hall meetings televised nightly during the congressional recess, the Senate Finance Committee, the only panel not to approve a public option in its bill, was at the center of attention, Brown said.

“I think that there was a real danger that there would not be a public option,” Pallone said. “Now, I think it’s the opposite.”

Asked to explain the cause of the shifting dynamic in the Senate, Harkin answered: “Five letters: P-O-L-L-S.” Public option proponents have long cited opinion polls showing voters supported their positions but Harkin and other lawmakers said an ABC News-Washington Post poll issued Tuesday had a noticeable impact.

The survey found that 57 percent of voters back the public option while 40 percent oppose it. In August, the same poll showed support at 52 percent, down from 62 percent in June.

In addition to the poll numbers, Harkin credited a strong push by labor unions, a powerful Democratic constituency. “Organized labor has intensified its lobbying efforts on this,” he said.

“It’s pretty hard for someone, the face of all that, to say they’re opposed to the public option,” Harkin said.

The key in the Senate seems to be whether Reid can persuade centrist Democratic hold-outs to back – or at least not help Republicans filibuster – a bill with an alternative public option proposal.

The so-called opt-out public option has lately gained traction in the Senate. Under this proposal -- originally conceived by centrist Democratic Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.) and modified and heavily promoted by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), a prominent public option supporter – the public option would launch nationally but states would be permitted to withdraw from the program.

Schumer’s version of the opt-out proposal has won over his fellow public option supporters. “I’m okay with that,” Brown said. “I think that makes sense for Leader Reid to go to the floor with the opt-out.”

Harkin said he prefers the full-scale public option in his committee’s bill but could support the opt-out compromise. “If that’s what’s in the bill that’s on the floor, I’d be comfortable with that,” he said, echoing remarks from earlier in the week by Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), one of the staunchest advocates of the public option.

Liberals have rejected other such compromises, such as an “opt-in” version or Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe’s (Maine) idea to establish a “trigger” that would activate the public option in states underserved by private health insurance. Triggers, Rockefeller said in a statement Friday, “are not a substitute for a strong public health insurance option.”

The public option trigger has nevertheless retained currency because of Obama’s strong desire to bring Snowe, and possibly other centrist Republicans, to his side. Snowe has spurned the opt-out proposal and indicated she could vote to sustain a filibuster of a healthcare bill that included such language.

After Obama met with Pelosi, Reid and other Democratic leaders Thursday, the White House repeated its message that Obama supports the public option but will not rule out the trigger or any other compromise.

That is not good enough, Harkin said. “I’ve not been very happy with the White House’s lukewarm support of the public option,” he said, articulating a gripe liberals have been making for months.

“I would hope the president would speak out more forcefully in favor of the public option,” Brown said, adding “I expect he will.”

Pallone suggested that Obama’s hands-off approach to the details of healthcare reform legislation has been the right one, however, and questioned whether the president taking a stronger position on the public option would make a difference. “I’m sure he would if it’s helpful – and it’s hard to read if it would be,” Pallone said.

Despite the fact that neither the House nor Senate even has a final healthcare reform bill, public option proponents are already looking to strengthen their position during an eventual House-Senate conference committee to combine the two bills.

“If we get that in the Senate version, I think that shows the strong support for the public option” in the final bill, Brown said.

Signals that the Senate is leaning toward considering a bill with a public option have even influenced the House’s approach. “When we were dealing with the idea that the Senate would have nothing, it was really important, again, to go in with the most muscle,” Pelosi said Friday. “This is about the end game now,” she said.

The final bill would still a public option of some kind, Pallone said, even though “we may have to have some compromises along the way.”


Source:
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/64581-liberals-confident-that-public-healthcare-option-will-come-through

Comments (22)

How many times have we heard prognostication s of the inevitability of the health care bill by the Democrat leadership only to find that they are way short on the votes?Wasn't this supposed to be a done deal by the summer recess?BY RAY G on 10/24/2009 at 07:03
I am proud of Nancy Pelosi for standing up for what people believe in and what she believes in and standing up for the public option. I hope we get a strong public option that can be enacted by President Obama. I have been emailing and calling the senators who have not spoke out in public about the public option and I have emailed and will be calling my congressman to push him to support it and will keep this up until we get this health care bill done. My mother needs surgery to have her gallbladder removed and she is on a fix income. She has been deined Medicare which is a public option and she need affordable health care and so do millions of other people who some are in the same shape as my mom LACK OF HEALTH CARE!!! I am on Medicare and I want everybody to have the choice to the same health care as I do. I am not selfish like the republican led insurance compaines are. Do these insurance compaines really hate America?BY Josh on 10/24/2009 at 07:15
To Josh…Remember that there are many of us who are satisfied with our employer based healthcare and it isn't the federal governments job to provide and force a national healthcare program upon the american people! I don't want the government in my life and telling me what to do! The have an extremely poor record in managing federally funded programs, need I remind you of that? I am sorry about your mother, but until the hammer and sickle flag goes up the pole, I have no use for Obamacare!BY Bob in St. Louis, MO on 10/24/2009 at 09:03
I have always been a registered independent, but if the Democrat party succeeds in passing a so-called "public option", then I will immediately switch my registration to Republican. I am sure the Florida Republican Party would love to have my vote.BY Independent voter on 10/24/2009 at 09:04
Who in the L is going to pay for this bloated peice of obama elcrapo. It isn't going to be the librals they only like to spend other peoples money on incompetent ACORN-CAIR doles. Its is time to stop this pile of horsee poopoo now. obama u have such a big vocabulary, first it was bold, bold my geister, plain stupid, then you ran around the country talking about your boogy man. That glove didn't fit so now your running your mouth about naysayers and telling people to shut up. Well go to Helen Waite you foney libreral marxist WITH YOUR BALLOON BOY tactics. We don't want your freakin govenment health care. The government didn't make this nation. Look at the failures of schummmmmer, dodd, frank,obama, deadfish, reid and pelosi runinning our housing and banking industry. they screwed it up so bad with their political favors and threats now it is sucking wind.Take you freakin healthcare AND THROW IT IN THE GRAVE WITH THE FONEY FRAUDULENT KENNEDY.BY jake2 on 10/24/2009 at 10:25
Those who are 'satisfied' with the insurance provided by your employers today need only wait a few years and you will be singing a different tune. If nothing is done, in 7 to 10 years the premium will be double what it is today and we shall see if your employer is as generous then as they are now.The only reason not to support health care insurance reform is that you are so rich that you can insure yourself. Being rich is also the only reason that makes any sense at all to vote a Republican because the wealthiest are the only ones who win in the long run under so-called conservative rule.BY Tony on 10/24/2009 at 10:34
I too am satisfied with our insurance.I've worked hard to achieve it and have had a say at my institution about the coverage we now buy. However, why is it that the Senate brain trust looking at healthcare reform has not looked at the catastrophic option? Why haven't they considered tort reform? Why have they not listened to the majority of physicians who do not want this radical plan? There are real ideas out there they have not considered. But what is most disgusting is they have been deaf to the electorate. Moreover, they have not studied the healthcare debacles of other states much less other countries who have public options. All such plans are in deep trouble and will require a vast amount revenue to stay afloat. Germany will be raising taxes on its citizens in order to keep the very expensive state run health care they have. What the Pelosi/Reid/Obama debacle will also create is even more of a class system with regard to healthcare. Pelosi and Obama won't go the public route because they are millionaires, but they will foist it on the rest of us.BY GFM on 10/24/2009 at 10:55
I am not and will never be proud of Pelosi. She is not speaking out for anyone but herself and her liberal constituency. The rediculous comments that she continues to make are embarrassing to say the very least. She acts like she is Obama's mother. I usually do not talk like this but I am mad as [***] about the closed door meetings. What happened to the promises during Bama's campaign? I didn't vote for him, but I can cite promise after promise that he has not kept. With his behavior and choices of czars, I am personally disgusted. If you want to give up your freedoms, keep supporting this crap. The government has no business in healthcare. They have screwed up everything else. When they clean up the government and stop throwing our tax dollars away, good money after bad, I will give them the benefit of the doubt. But I will never agree that they should get into my personal choices when it comes to my health care. That will be the beginning of many freedoms lost to Americans. I am not a diehard Republican either. I do know that I probably will vote Republican from now on though. Everyone needs to look closely at what's going on. We need some reform in the health care of America, but not an overhaul. I want your mother to be taken care of, Josh, but believe me this will be no better. Do you really think that an undertaking this large that affects ALL CITIZENS IN AMERICA can be done this fast??? If this plan is so great for ALL CITIZENS IN AMERICA then it would have passed already and everyone would have a smile on their face. This administration has no regard for the constitution. He has said that he wants to fundamentally change America. We thought it would be to clean up the problems in our gov. but we were wrong. Please, get informed. Don't believe that you will be in utopia because of what they promise. Your mother will have to have a gall bladder operation long before this plan will take effect. It will not take place until 2013…they have to drastically raise your taxes and mine first to begin to pay for the changes. Keep calling agencies, Josh, someone will help your mother. My brother-in-law was without ins. for a while after early retirement. He was diagnosed with a terminal brain tumor and received the best of care. The doctor (at a prestigious hosp.), took excellent care of him and treated us like we were millionaires. He told us that he did surgeries for free every week. I wish the best for you and your mother, but you will PAY dearly for gov. run health.BY Kathi on 10/24/2009 at 11:05
All of you people complaining about health care reform are completely ignorant of what's going on in our system. Those of us who have insurance have all worked to have it as did those who paid their premiums and deductibles faithfully only to be denied or dropped the minute they were diagnosed with an expensive condition. People who are unemployed cannot afford to buy on the private market - have you ever priced those policies? I have - they're ridiculously expensive and you can still be dropped. The cost to all levels of government of the uninsured is crippling the budgets. Women pay more than men and things like a Cesarean section, rape and abuse can be considered pre-existing conditions. Catastrophic coverage (except for accidents) is a ridiculous idea. We need to treat conditions instead of waiting until the condition is so bad that they have to go to the emergency room - that is the most expensive way of treating people. Tort reform is already handled at the state level and has not brought down insurance at all in states like mine where there are strict laws. It also punishes those who are victims of medical malpractice. What the doctors need is malpractice insurance reform and they also need to stop protecting bad doctors. And the Germans are asking to have their taxes raised.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8321967.stmBY Suzanne on 10/24/2009 at 11:29
This reads like a similar front-page article in today's Washington post. New momentum on the public option! The tide has turned! It's a miracle. Want evidence — just ask the leftiest dems who want it most, they'll tell you! (Never mind those other two articles on The Hill's web site saying the votes aren't there and Nancy was calling an emergency meeting to reassure the far left that she hasn't given up on the public option.) This is clearly an attempt to shore up sagging support for the public option. I don't blame the dems for trying it, but why is The Hill treating this propaganda as if it were news?BY Ward on 10/24/2009 at 11:35

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