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Lieberman to vote against public option

By Alexander Bolton - 10/27/09 12:48 PM ET

Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democrat-turned-Independent from Connecticut, said Tuesday that he will not vote for a healthcare reform bill that includes a government-run insurance plan.
 
This means that as things now stand, Democrats will not have enough votes to pass healthcare reform with a so-called public option unless Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) can pick up unexpected GOP votes.
 
Sen. Olympia Snowe (Maine), the only Republican to vote for the Senate Finance Committee’s healthcare bill, said Tueday that she would vote against bringing up a bill that included a government-run insurance program unless the implementation of such a program were set to a trigger.
 

Lieberman said he would vote with Reid and other Democrats on a motion to begin debate on a healthcare bill because he believes it is an important issue that needs to be considered. But he said he would not lend his support to an effort to cut off debate on a bill including a government-run insurance program.
 
Lieberman said he told Reid of his position in a recent conversation and that the leader “respected and understood.”
 
“We’re trying to do too much at once,” said Lieberman. “To put this government-created, government-run insurance company on top of everything else is just asking for trouble for the taxpayer, for the premium payer and for the national debt. I don’t think we need it now.”
 
Lieberman said he was not placated by allowing states to opt out of the public option “because it still creates a whole new federal government entitlement program, for which taxpayers will eventually be on the line.”
 
The motion to begin debate and the motion to move to a final vote are two actions that would require 60 votes and are considered the highest hurdles to passing a reform bill through the Senate.
 
Several centrist Democrats, including Sens. Evan Bayh (Ind.) and Ben Nelson (Neb.), said they have not yet decided whether they would vote to begin debate on healthcare reform next week or the week after.
 
“I don’t think there is much difference between process and policy at this particular juncture, so I’m going to be looking at those two things as one and the same,” said Bayh, who added that he might vote to block debate. “I want to see what the bill has to say and if I think they have major substantive flaws in it, they may have to be corrected before we go to the floor for debte.”
 
Unlike Lieberman, Bayh said the public option is a relatively minor concern for him.
 
“I have some qualms about that but that has not been my greatest concern,” he said.
 
Bayh said he is more concerned about whether the reform bill “is fiscally responsible and [to] make sure we’re not setting up something that will explode into huge deficits.” Bayh also wants to make sure that the legislation does not drive up premiums for Americans who now have insurance.
 
Nelson said he would wait to review the written provisions of the reform bill before making a decision on whether to vote to begin debate.
 
“Nobody’s read it other than the leader and maybe some staff,” Nelson said.

Source:
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/64981-senator-lieberman-not-backing-public-option

Comments (46)

Well Reid gambled and Reid failed. Lieberman's move is a major boost to the GOP and a huge loss to the Democrats. If Snowe backs up what she has said as beng against the public option and stands with her party on it that is 59 and not 60 votes for closure, meaning the bill cannot move forward. Even more interesting and perhaps more devastating to Democrats is what affect Lieberman's move will have on other moderate Democrats, especially Lincoln and Nelson of Nebraska and Florida. If these two other senators and Snowe bolt the entire bill could fall apart in the Senate.BY gabe on 10/27/2009 at 14:13
My respect for Senator Lieberman just skyrocketed to the moon!BY Chris on 10/27/2009 at 14:16
God bless you Joe Lieberman. It is simply insane to keep expanding entitlement programs when we have massive structural deficits as far as the eye can see. There is nothing in the Democrats bill that "bends the cost-curve" on healthcare down. If anything it bends it up. I have no problems with attempting to achieve some sort of universal coverage, but only after we redesigned our current entitlement programs and taken care of putting our country back in firm fiscal footing.BY Ricky E on 10/27/2009 at 14:17
Way to go Joe! obamacare DOA…BY BC on 10/27/2009 at 14:19
Ah, Joe has a great health plan. Who cares what the unwashed masses want? That weasel needs to just join up with the GOP so the stonewalling against effective, affordable health care becomes complete and the rest of the planet can move forward without them.BY Dan on 10/27/2009 at 14:30
I'd love to see Lieberman's bank account statement. I'm guessing there is a large deposit from an insurance lobbyist.Like healthcare reform or not… this "debate" has less to do with the *people* and more to do with a huge special interest turf war with trillions of dollars in current and future potential industry revenue hanging in the balance.Nobody in this debate is really promoting the interests of "Joe Sixpack", "Main Street" or whatever cliche politco term used to label those of us outside of DCBY Jeff on 10/27/2009 at 14:41
why is this not the headline story???bogus "public option momentum" stories get top billing but an actual IDENTIFIABLE senator going on the record saying there are not 60 votes for cloture doesnt?this is why no one trusts the drive by mediaBY johnboy on 10/27/2009 at 14:46
But Dan, the masses DO NOT want Obamacare. The misleading Gallup/USA Today poll asked more Democrats than exist as a percentage of the population so of course they got a positive result. Try a pollster who uses strict statistical technique like Pew or Rasmussen. Most Americans are opposed to this by about 10 points.BY econ101 on 10/27/2009 at 14:50
Yes, Joe's an independent Democrat … meaning one who has a brain and does not drink the Obama kool-aid like the rest of these mindless tax and spenders. He's also an independent Democrat who refuses to pull back on America's foreign policy commitments around the world, unlike the "head-in-the-sand" Democrats like Kerry and Biden who think we can win a world war against Islamic fascism by shooting a few drones into the sky. Horray for Joe Lieberman, probably the most principled guy in the Senate.BY Gershon Moshe on 10/27/2009 at 14:52
Hey Dan, where is the Tort Reform and Competition Across State Lines. "EFFECTIVE AND AFFORDABLE" what a joke> are you protesting the Big Banks in Chicago with SEIU as well?BY Small Biz Owner on 10/27/2009 at 14:53

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