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Reid reassures left Lieberman on board

By Alexander Bolton - 11/02/09 08:15 PM ET

Sen. Joe Lieberman has reached a private understanding with Majority Leader Harry Reid that he will not block a final vote on healthcare reform, according to two sources briefed on the matter.

The unpredictable Democrat-turned-Independent last week publicly stated he would join Republicans in filibustering the Democratic legislation after Reid (D-Nev.) announced he had included a government-run health insurance plan in the bill.

But sources said Reid’s staff is telling liberal interest groups that Lieberman (Conn.) has assured Reid he will vote with Democrats in the necessary procedural vote to end debate, perhaps with intentions to change the bill.

“Lieberman keeps assuring Reid that he’s OK,” said one source. “But he’s one of those characters — you never know with Joe.

“Maybe he’s talking tough to get the public option watered down or he’s trying to get some stuff for himself on other topics or on other sections of the legislation,” the source added. “He’s basically trying to be a senator.”

Lieberman’s spokesman said Monday that nothing has changed from last week, when the senator said he would support calling up the bill but would block a final vote.

“Sen. Lieberman has made it clear that he will vote for the motion to proceed to the healthcare bill but will oppose cloture on a final bill if it contains a public option because he believes that it would worsen our national debt problem,” said Lieberman aide Marshall Wittmann.

A spokesman for Reid declined to comment.

Lieberman’s vote is crucial because he likely represents the 60th vote needed to end debate in the Senate. Without him, Reid would be forced to fish on the other side of the aisle for a vote, something that has not come easily this Congress.

Sen. Olympia Snowe (Maine), the only Republican to vote for any healthcare reform bill in this Congress, has signaled she will likely join Republicans in filibustering the bill because Reid included a public option.

Reid’s staff has told anxious liberals that Lieberman has given the Democratic leader assurances that he will not wreck the reform bill because of Reid’s decision to include the public option, according to two sources briefed on the issue.

As a result, well-connected liberals inside the Beltway who are in touch with Reid’s office have taken a more optimistic view of Lieberman’s position, while activists and bloggers outside the loop have seethed over his statements from last week.

“To put this government-created, government-run insurance company on top of everything else is just asking for trouble for the taxpayer, for the premium payer and for the national debt. I don’t think we need it now,” Lieberman said on Oct. 27, one day after Reid announced he would include a public option in the bill.

Lieberman would still be free to vote against the bill on final passage, as only a simple majority of the chamber is needed and Democrats could afford to lose a few votes in their conference.

Sources attribute Lieberman’s public declaration of opposition as an effort to win concessions for his constituents, which include several major insurance companies based in the state.

Lieberman’s private assurances may explain Reid’s confidence that the maverick lawmaker will support his former party’s bid to pass its signature domestic initiative.

When asked about Lieberman’s threats of opposition last week, Reid praised his colleague.

“I have the greatest confidence in Joe Lieberman’s ability as a legislator,” said Reid. “And he will work with us when this gets on the floor and I’m sure he’ll have some interesting things to do in the way of amendment. But Joe Lieberman is the least of Harry Reid’s problems.”

Liberal leaders who support the public option say they are confident Lieberman, who caucuses with Democrats, will not sink healthcare reform.

“At the end of the day Sen. Lieberman will vote to cut off debate,” said Richard Kirsch, national campaign manager of Healthcare for America Now, a coalition of liberal and labor groups. “He’ll do what he has to do. He’s making a lot of noise.”

Even without the understanding, Lieberman’s liberal colleagues say the healthcare reform legislation will gain a lot of momentum once it lands on the Senate floor and that it would be difficult for any centrist Democrat — even a former Democrat — to block it.

“There will be a different kind of momentum and urgency once this bill is on the floor,” said Sen. Bob Casey Jr. (D-Pa.), a strong supporter of the public option, in an interview.

“I hope that any senator in our caucus wouldn’t draw a line in the sand,” Casey added. “There are a lot of parts to this bill and a lot of ways to get to a final vote where someone votes in favor even though up to this point they have been saying they are not on board.

Reid announced last week that he would insert into the healthcare reform bill a government-run insurance program that states could opt out of. The opt-out version of the program was intended to lure balky centrist Democrats. But Lieberman and Snowe quickly declared their opposition.

That stirred speculation that Democrats might have to resort to voting for a government health plan set to a trigger, which would not go into effect unless insurance companies failed to meet certain benchmarks.

But liberal senators and their allies have panned the idea, essentially taking it off the table.

“The insurance companies have had six decades to do this right,” said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), who has led the fight in the Senate for a strong government insurance program. “Why do they need time to abuse the public trust? I don’t know why we should give them more time to get this right.”

Hilary Shelton, the director of the Washington bureau of the NAACP, which is part of a coalition of liberal and labor groups fighting for the public option, said he hoped Lieberman would not stand in the way of reform.

“I hope that he would see what most of us see, that the options on the table, which include the public option, would help millions of Americans, and in the final analysis he’ll do the right thing,” said Shelton.

Senate observers note that Reid stood up for Lieberman at a crucial point last year when Democratic colleagues wanted to strip his chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee. Just before Democratic senators voted on the issue at a closed-door meeting last November, Reid came to Lieberman’s defense.

When reporters later asked Reid whether he could trust Lieberman in the 111th Congress, Reid said: “The answer is yes, I trust Sen. Joe Lieberman.”

Source:
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/66005-reid-reassures-the-left-lieberman-is-on-board

Comments (93)

Joe's the 60th vote? Someone is forgetting Obama's replacement, Roland Burris. Burris is a NO vote on a final bill that lacks a strong public option. There will be NO strong public option, and most likely a watered down one with a Snowe Trigger anyway. My guess is Burris votes no Snowe actually is the 60th vote.BY Mark Cartwright on 11/03/2009 at 01:12
The Wall Street Journal? Give me a break. They are soooo predictable. A great newspaper with a Tory editorial page.BY Richard on 11/03/2009 at 01:24
Sen. Joe Lieberman won't support the public option health care plan because he personally doesn't need it. Even if he or his family did, he still probably wouldn't vote for the public option. He doesn't like people that much.BY rudy haugeneder on 11/03/2009 at 01:37
Joe Lieberman is a disgrace. Absolutely and unequivocally. Nothing he says should be believed, he is only in the game for his own interests and agendas. The Democrats should stop placating this clown. He needs to be unseated in Conn. The Democrats need to find a viable candidate that can accomplish that goal. His defeat should be as important to them as defeating Republicans is to them, because he does not stand with them, and is a very dangerous character. If Harry Reid doesn't understand this then maybe he should be on the way out too. The Democrats need to be more forceful Leaders and Legislators, and understand that they need to become more disciplined as a party, if they wish to push their ideas forward. Otherwise, the Republican party will continue to exploit the ignorant, and make it look like the Democrats are just trying to the advantage of the "little guy", the middle class, and so forth. Which is, in fact, just what the Republican party did during the previous administration, to the benefit of the wealthy upper class. Shame on the Dems blindness, in not seeing that Lieberman is a snake.BY Ralph Emerson on 11/03/2009 at 01:42
I have fought for single payer and the public option but what is currently in these bills is not worth the mandate and increased profits to the insurance companies that brought us here in the first place.Both the senate and house version cover too few people which sets the public option up to fail. AND because it is too few people it will do almost nothing to bring down costs. I wrote to my reps today and just asked them to take the mandate out of the bills and get whatever reforms they can without it.It never occurred to me that Lieberman was holding out for concessions related to Isreal, but it makes sense now.BY ldb on 11/03/2009 at 01:46
Only a clueless git like Reid would believe anything traitor Joe promised him. It's like trusting Republicans. They are selfish, immoral, greedheads who lie every time they open their twisted mouths and work against the interests of average Americans consistently. The Democratic Party isn't much better, but at least they aren't pure evil and insanity yet.BY Ajax on 11/03/2009 at 01:53
If Lieberman is for it then it has been gutted so badly that it is going to hurt us more than it helps us. By limiting the number of people that can get the public option the GOP has succeeded in killing a real public option. It will no longer have enough bargaining power to make a difference. This will give the GOP the failed plan they are looking for to attack everything that helps the bottom 90% of Americans.BY Frenchrevolution on 11/03/2009 at 02:08
Of course the Editorial page of the Wall Street Journal condemned the plan, WTF, who do you think owns the Journal?????? Same guy that owns FOXGawdBY Jay  on 11/03/2009 at 02:27
Joe will do what's good for Joe - and, for Israel.BY Vince on 11/03/2009 at 02:58
Lieberman is a crook and a liar. Crook: His wife's position and stock holdings with insurance companies will benefit financially rom holding back reform.Liar: he campaigned in 2006 as an advocate of universal coverage. Now, like Nixon, his previous statements "inoperable." Joe should be clear that on the day he votes against his caucus on any key procedural vote, he loses his chairmanship and any status in the caucus. He will then be a party of one until either the prosecutors put him in jail or the voters retire him in 2012. . Say it isn't so, Joe.BY Paul  on 11/03/2009 at 03:15
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Sell there souls…are only hope…William, I could tell you were a teabagger by your spelling alone..If you read as well as you write, I am not surprised at your conclusions..Or should I say, "you're conclusions."BY RANDAL on 11/03/2009 at 03:52
Rupert Murdoch is trying to destroy America. He seems close to succeeding.BY DTG on 11/03/2009 at 04:10
Some people oppose the legislation because it does almost nothing to control costs, declares all American citizens guilty of non-insurance upon birth (until they act to correct by acquiring acceptable insurance), applies an insanely regressive tax where poor people will be paying upwards of 10% of their income for insurance that they cannot even afford the copay to use, and guarantees insurance companies massive increases in profit, and guarantees insurance companies customers no matter how poor the value proposition they offer becomes. I feel quite comfortable saying I oppose the proposed bills, but still firmly support real reform. If it comes in the form of just requiring insurance companies to limit premium increases, and not drop coverage after someone gets sick, it's a better bill than this mess. If it comes in the form of socialized health care for all, it's a better bill than this mess. If it does nothing at all, it's a better bill than this mess. I support any reform that will fix more problems than it introduces, but the current proposals fail that test.BY Richard on 11/03/2009 at 04:39
I could not help wondering, as I read this, whether the recent problems in Israel and the double-cross of Palestine have something to do with Harry Reid's confidence. Lieberman is a snake. He can ruin health care and he assuredly will do everything he can to ruin prospects for peace in the Middle East. He is the most destructive member of Congress since Jesse Helms.BY Bergen on 11/03/2009 at 04:40
How much do the insurance companies stand to make if this bill is passed and everyone is forced to purchase insurance from them? How much are the pharmacutical companies going to make since the White House made their $80 Billion deal with them. One has to believe they will make more than they had to give up in the beginning. It is called the small investment for the big gain. Then there is the lawyers. What deal did the Dems make with them because they are curiously silent?BY tiredofit on 11/03/2009 at 04:52
I cannot believe Lieberman is still there. He should've been removed a long time ago. He's a traitor. I wouldn't believe one syllable that comes out of his mouth.BY Rider3 on 11/03/2009 at 06:17
Joe Lieberman cares not a wit for the American people, he represents corporate America and Israel, in that order. Those who believe government intervention into health care will solve our problems, forget how the problems arose in the first place. The Joe Lieberman's of the world, first create the problem, then create the solution. Civil liberty, as always, is the casualty. Until Americans understand there is no such thing as a "free lunch," the Lieberman's will continue the shell game.BY Dick on 11/03/2009 at 06:44
OK LIEBERMAN DOES NOT WANT THE OPTION THAT WOULD GIVE BIG INSURANCE MONOPOLIES COMPETITION…SO DO YOU WANT LIEBERMAN CONN. OR DO YOU WANT YOUR SICK KIDS TO GET HEALTHCARE…ITS THAT SIMPLE!BY rgilley on 11/03/2009 at 06:46
IN LIEBERMAN'S CASE, SEEING IS BELIEVINGI am skeptical, and would watch this closely to the end. This article is persuasive, but none of the people interviewed can say categorically they know what Liberman is prepared to do. This is a Senator who in recent days said he would even campaign for some Republicans and has in the past betrayed Democrats brazingly more than thirteen times. He has the cash and support of the health care industries. As such, this senator seems to have sold his soul for a mesh of pottage. Thus, he might be willing to sell his party, his constituency, his honor, his principle, his conscience, the poor, the weak, the down-trodden, the disadvantaged, the unemployed so that he can keep the cash flowing—for a lie. The hypocrisy of this senator is unbelievable! He even abandoned the man (now President) who came to his rescue when he needed him. And inadvertently, he is inciting a new wave of anti-SemitismBY Dr. Sam on 11/03/2009 at 06:49

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