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Pelosi moves to center on public option

By Mike Soraghan and Jared Allen - 10/01/09 06:17 PM ET

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is shifting to the center on a government-run public health insurance plan, warming to a version that is being supported by some Blue Dog Democrats.

Pelosi’s recent public statements and private conversations indicate her willingness to move away from the more liberal proposal, which she had been promoting as being more cost-effective. The centrist view was negotiated with Blue Dogs to move the bill out of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. 

Liberals want a public option that is tied to Medicare rates plus 5 percent. Blue Dogs and other centrist Democrats want rates to be negotiated individually with providers.

Earlier this week, Pelosi said, “The differences are not as great as you may think when you take it down to its different parts.”

Pelosi brought the centrist option up Thursday with the Blue Dog leadership for the first time. And she promoted the savings it can deliver, saying it is more than the $25 billion originally thought.

“I think there are probably more savings in the negotiated rates, as well,” Pelosi later told reporters.

Her apparent shift comes at a critical time in the healthcare debate, when both chambers are struggling to find enough votes to advance President Barack Obama’s signature domestic priority. In a sign of that trouble, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) announced Thursday that there won’t be a floor vote on the healthcare bill in the next two weeks.

Centrists, including many Blue Dogs, would prefer that if there is a public option in the healthcare bill, it be based on negotiated rates. Many of those members come from rural districts and feel that Medicare rates already shortchange providers.

The Energy and Commerce panel adopted the negotiated-rates version as a way to overcome the objection of several Blue Dog Democrats about Medicare rates and other issues.

Pelosi has said there will be a public option in the House bill. She has ruled out cooperatives and a so-called “trigger” fallback option.

Liberal and centrist leaders agree that the debate is moving in the direction of negotiated rates. It’s disappointing to liberal leaders, who scrambled Wednesday and Thursday to prove that their Medicare-based version had overwhelming support among Democrats.

“The momentum is to pass something,” said Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.). “For some people, negotiated rates is the easiest path. But negotiated rates effectively kills the public option.”
Liberal leaders brought the names of 150 Democratic supporters of the Medicare-rates approach to a meeting with Pelosi on Thursday, according to a Democratic source. It’s not clear if that was enough to get her to shift back to that approach.

“Yes, I think there’s momentum, “ said Blue Dog leader Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.). “They don’t have the votes for a public option with Medicare rates.”

But Grijalva noted that 46 members recently signed a letter pledging to vote against the centrist plan. In the numbers game of the House, that is significant, because Republicans are expected to unite against the healthcare bill. So if 39 Democrats oppose the plan, it wouldn’t get the 218 votes needed to pass. There are 52 Blue Dogs, as well as many other centrist members not in the coalition.

“With negotiated rates, you lose votes on the left,” Herseth Sandlin said. “ I don’t know that either public option can get 218 votes.”

Last week, House leaders promoted Medicare rates, saying they would save $110 billion over 10 years by driving down premiums. Negotiated rates, they said, citing unofficial Congressional Budget Office (CBO) numbers, would save only $25 billion.

The level of savings is important, because Obama wants the bill to cost $900 billion or less. So House members need to cut $200 billion from their plan.

But Pelosi and Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) on Thursday were promoting the savings from the version with negotiated rates, saying there’s more than $25 billion.

“There’s clearly more savings in a public option tied to Medicare rates,” Waxman said. “But if we go to negotiated rates, there are more savings than just the $25 billion identified by CBO.”

Pelosi told Blue Dog leaders in a meeting Thursday that she wants the CBO to “sharpen its pencil” and find more savings in negotiated rates, Herseth Sandlin said.

Even if Pelosi settles on a public option, there are still several more problematic issues to resolve, such as whether to raise taxes on the wealthy to pay for it, and whether the bill would allow taxpayer dollars to go toward abortions.

The Senate is not expected to pass a bill that includes a public option, as many leading Democrats in the chamber say they don’t have the votes. Though many centrist House Democrats are wary of casting a vote on a bill that won’t ever become law, Pelosi wants to include a public option in the House version to pull the negotiations to the left.

“We will go to the table with that strength when we are ready,” Pelosi said Thursday. “But what happens in conference is another step along the way.”

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Comments (20)

We can talk politics of health care til we all blue, but show me the numbers before anything else! Right now, I am relying on the CBO, but I want to hear all about the numbers from our irresponsible, incompetent Congress! Oh, could you Congress ladies and gentlemen include the break down of the 40 something million who are uninsured? Last but not least, if you people cant share the numbers with us (including the money), I say: Arise, Sleeping Giant, Arise!!BY Ula Maxie on 10/01/2009 at 23:28
Her favorite time of the year is coming up and she won't need a Halloween outfit at all. She will be Pelosi, the wicked Witch who forgot about water boarding and now is changing her position from PUBLIC OPTION!BY Ranchera on 10/01/2009 at 23:28
She's talking from both sides of her mouth and will say anything to gain passage of this bill as she knows that once the bill is out of cmte she and Sen Reid can mold it anyway they want and the Blue Dogs will just shake their heads. Any moron can see what's going on.Health Care reform has to begin with Tort reform and allow insurers to purchase insurance from across state lines, only then will there be true savings. You can not take 500 Billion from Medicare and expect that services will continue as they are now. Based on the democrat health care bill in the Senate Financial Cmte the Congressman got the wrong party identified in his speech, it's the democrat's who want us to die - Read the Bill and see for yourself.BY rogpeck2002 on 10/02/2009 at 00:59
This is such a sad time for our country. A health reform bill should take a year to work out, at the very least. ALL prospects should be verified both in coverage and cost. All persons affected should be considered in depth. Spending should be dependent on what the economy can truthfully (not a word used often in Congress) handle. It should be done in parts, starting with curtailing the abuse and fraud we hear so much about. If they can't cut down on the abuse and fraud NOW, they will not in the future. Show the people this can be done FIRST. If these people cannot take one section at a time, and obtain complete (100%) agreement from democrats and republicans and independents, that its MEANING is the same, then someone is lying. Something well written is understood perfectly by all, with no hidden meanings.BY JD Plus on 10/02/2009 at 05:59
Cleaning up the current problems and faults with the health care system is a noble effort. However it certainly takes more time and intelligent study to first identify whats wrong and then come up with ways to improve it.The nature of this bill is no different that the pork laden stimulus bill which has had little or no effect on our economy, but made hero's out those members of congress who once again brought home the bacon to their districts.If even half as much time would be spent on getting the engine of our economy working again we would be far ahead in getting the unemployed back to work. I never liked percentages, from the govt's numbers the unemployment rate equates to 14.9 million people out of work with no way to support their families with shelter,food, pay the bills, let alone pay for health care. This is huge disconnect between our elected representatives the people and the struggles our county has today. Too bad these people don't have access to working or observing the long lines of people who visit every food pantry in the area each week.I alway thought that this government was for the people- by the people- and of the peopleWhen will it start to happen!BY Effie on 10/02/2009 at 07:27
The only way the general public would get a healthcare bill that would be worthwhile is if Congressional members would be forced to include themselves in its coverage. They are the elitists and feel they do not have to abide by the laws they pass. Members currently have excellent medical coverage with in house doctors and nurses for a mere $503 per year, over and above what is provided through the FEHBP.Pres. Obama goes around making promises without a clue as to how to accomplish anything. In the meantime, we listen to our representatives debate how to govern our future without the funds to do so. And, in the mean time, these same people all enjoy percs provided by the lobbyists. Makes you want to puke.BY Mimi on 10/02/2009 at 08:07
MIMI, I agree. Very good comment.BY PL on 10/02/2009 at 08:23
Mike and Jared - Thanks for explaining why Nancy Pelosi always has that dizzy facial expression - she is constantly shifting position, especially when she does her clapping and leaping trained seal act during Barack Obama's speeches.What a shifty character!BY Davole on 10/02/2009 at 10:59
The people have spoken clearly on this issue. We DO NOT want ANY Govt. take over of our health care. If they try to ram this down our throats the DEMS. will see a huge back lash in 2010.BY danceswithtrees on 10/02/2009 at 12:25
KISS - Keep It Simple Senators - 1st, NO public option. 2nd, TORT reform. 3rd, Same Medicare and Healthcare for everyone, including elected officials. 3rd, NO health-care for illegal aliens. 4th, Health insurance access accross state lines. 5th, Control expensive pension schemes for Gov. servants. 6th, NO pork accepted in any bill. 7th NO voting on any bill before reading it. 7th, NO Government intervention in peoples' pursuit of liberty.BY GREATDANE on 10/02/2009 at 12:26

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