Obama, GOP start $50 billion apart

The Obama administration opened talks on a budget deal Thursday with congressional Republicans and Democrats, but the two sides appeared miles apart on how much to reduce this year’s spending.

The White House offered to slash spending by an additional $6.5 billion a day after President Obama signed short-term legislation cutting spending by $4 billion to prevent a government shutdown.

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Republicans, however, want $61 billion in cuts, and some dismissed the new offer from Democrats as small grapes. “That’ll pay for two months of interest on the stimulus bill,” quipped Don Stewart, spokesman for Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnellMitch McConnellPeter Thiel does not make the GOP pro-gay Reid: Trump is a 'hateful con man' McAuliffe: Clinton won't move TPP without changes MORE (Ky.).

There were no signs of progress at the initial meeting between Vice President Biden and leaders in both parties Thursday, and aides said additional short-term measures to keep the government running are a virtual certainty.

Biden’s meeting with McConnell, House Speaker John BoehnerJohn BoehnerDem drops out of race for Boehner's old seat Conservative allies on opposite sides in GOP primary fight Clinton maps out first 100 days MORE (R-Ohio), Senate Majority Leader Harry ReidHarry ReidReid: Congress should return 'immediately' to fight Zika Classified briefings to begin for Clinton, Trump The Trail 2016: Her big night MORE (D-Nev.) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) ran for just over an hour. Once it ended, the vice president released a terse statement that read: “We had a good meeting, and the conversation will continue.”

The White House and congressional Democrats rallied around their new offer for much of Thursday, arguing it was a sign they were meeting the GOP halfway on its proposal. The Democratic messaging came after BoehnerJohn BoehnerDem drops out of race for Boehner's old seat Conservative allies on opposite sides in GOP primary fight Clinton maps out first 100 days MORE taunted Biden before the meeting, saying the White House should press Senate Democrats to come up with their own plan for reducing spending.

With their new offer, Democrats hoped to put pressure on Boehner and Republicans to respond.

Gene Sperling, director of the National Economic Council, said spending cuts proposed by the White House would reduce Obama’s 2011 budget request, which was never enacted, by more than $50 billion.

Republicans, he said, had promised in their campaign “Pledge to America” that they would reduce spending from Obama’s budget request by $100 billion.

“Democrats stand ready to meet Republicans halfway,” Pelosi told reporters Thursday during a news conference before the Biden meeting.

Sperling did not spell out where the new cuts proposed by the White House would be made, and the economic council director would not say whether Biden would be providing specifics at the meeting.

The GOP questioned Sperling’s math, and in a colloquy with House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), House Majority Leader Eric CantorEric CantorThree strategies to help Clinton build 'Team of Teams' David Brat may run for Senate if Kaine becomes VP The Hill's 12:30 Report MORE (R-Va.) vowed that his party would move bills cutting federal spending by $2 billion a week until Democrats produce a plan.

“We would encourage the Senate and Leader Reid to act so that we can move forward, and until then, Mr. Speaker, I would say to my friend from Maryland that I would expect the House to continue its process of cutting $2 billion a week until we can see where the gentleman's caucus and then the Democratic Leader in the Senate is,” Cantor said.

While Democrats sought to portray unity, there are significant differences within the party over how much to cut this year, with Pelosi and other liberals objecting to even the $4 billion in cuts in this week’s bill. Centrist senators like Sen. Claire McCaskillClaire McCaskillDems begin ‘treason’ talk against Trump The Republicans' hypocrisy on minimum wage Watchdog faults Energy Department over whistleblower retaliation MORE (D-Mo.), on the other hand, have called for deeper spending cuts.

The fractures have been evident throughout the week, as more than 100 House Democrats voted against Pelosi and in favor of the $4 billion in cuts this week.



In the Senate on Wednesday, 10 Democrats voted in favor of a nonbinding “Sense of the Senate” resolution calling for passage of a balanced-budget amendment to the Constitution. The effort was led by freshman Sen. Mike LeeMike LeeObama signs opioid bill Thiel said to explain support for Trump in convention speech Convention erupts at Cruz snub MORE (R-Utah), a favorite of the Tea Party Movement.


The GOP has been more united, but Boehner and McConnell are under heavy pressure from conservatives to take a hard line in the talks, even as they also face pressure to avoid a government shutdown.

For example, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), who voted against the measure reducing spending by $4 billion, told The Hill he will do everything he can to make sure the final spending deal defunds Obama's healthcare reforms.

Heritage Action, a group affiliated with the conservative Heritage Foundation, announced it will oppose additional short-term extensions and called for the immediate enactment of the House measure reducing this year’s spending by $61 billion.

“If the President and Senate Democrats are genuine in their desire to fund the government, cut non-security spending and avoid a shutdown, H.R.1 should be their starting point,” said the group’s CEO, Michael A. Needham, in a reference to the House bill. “Anything less and they will demonstrate a fundamentally unserious approach to our looming fiscal crisis.”

The White House and Republicans differ on other policy riders included in the House spending bill, though some in the GOP showed a willingness to compromise on some of these issues.

Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho), the chairman of the House Appropriation Committee’s Environment subcommittee, told The Hill Thursday that he’d support dropping a series of riders that block funding for EPA regulations if it prevents lawmakers from reaching a compromise on spending cuts.

Russell Berman, Mike Lillis and Pete Kasperowitz contributed to this story.