To follow up on yesterday's dueling speeches on national security, we asked Grover Norquist, President of Americans for Tax Reform, who he thought was winning the public debate--President Obama or Dick Cheney?

Cheney is winning.

The old question was whether torture and secret prisons and Abu Ghraib photo fests were a good idea. Cheney’s team was losing that argument, big time. The new question is having put a bunch of guys in an overseas prison and poked and irritated them for six years, should we release them into your congressional district. These now somewhat grumpy detainees Obama promises will be kept away from your children by the same government workers who runs the post office, the TSA, border security and the DMV. Trust him.

Obama is losing that one, big time.