Grijalva says term 'progressive' is 'in the eyes of the beholder'

Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) said Thursday that Democrats are increasingly identifying themselves as progressives, but the term doesn’t necessarily have the same meaning for everyone, saying it’s “in the eyes of the beholder.”

“Everyone is a progressive now and so I guess it depends on the definition for some,” Grijalva told Hill.TV’s Jamal Simmons on “Rising.”

“It’s in the eye of the beholder I think...and I don’t think it’s lost its meaning but sometimes you have to define it,” he continued.

The Arizona Democrat said that, like the term "conservative," "progressive" doesn’t necessarily refer to a single ideology or philosophy.

“It’s kind of like conservative, I think it’s lost its meaning, it used to be pretty clear [where] I come from — Barry Goldwater state, John McCainJohn Sidney McCainCollins to endorse LePage in Maine governor comeback bid Meghan McCain: Country has not 'healed' from Trump under Biden Biden steps onto global stage with high-stakes UN speech MORE state, et cetera and so we kind of grew knowing what that ideology and philosophy was,” he told Hill.TV

Grijalva is stepping down from the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) after serving as one of the leadership's co-chairs for 10 years.

The Arizona Democrat said the move will give him a chance to focus on preparing to take over the House Natural Resource Committee in the new Congress, saying he expects his new role as chairman to be both a “challenge” and a “workload.”

Grijalva added that, as part of his agenda, he plans on looking into the culture of the Interior Department after Secretary Ryan ZinkeRyan Keith ZinkeWant to evaluate Donald Trump's judgment? Listen to Donald Trump The Hill's Morning Report - Biden launches blitz for jobs plan with 'thank you, Georgia' OVERNIGHT ENERGY: Court sets in motion EPA ban on pesticide linked to developmental issues | Trump Interior Secretary Zinke files to run for Congress, again | Senate passes bipartisan B water infrastructure bill MORE stepped down amid multiple ethics investigations into his various business dealing and policy decisions.

“What we want to do is elevate the issue of conservation back part of the mission and central part of the mission of the interior,” he told Hill.TV.

Grijalva has long expressed concerns about Zinke.

In an op-ed in November, Grijalva called for Zinke to “resign immediately,” arguing that’e he’s unfit to serve due to his multiple “ethics scandals and management failures.” Zinke later hit back accusing him of being a drunkard, saying Grijalva can’t “think straight from the bottom of the bottle,” and accused him of paying hush money to try to silence a former female staffer.

Grijalva said he’s glad that the House Committee on Ethics has since set the record straight.

The panel on Tuesday unanimously cleared the congressman of any wrongdoing related to a settlement that had been given to a former female staffer in 2015, and found that the payment wasn’t a misuse of funds as some, including Zinke, had claimed.

Grijalva said, while he doesn't expect that the allegations will stop, the panel’s decision will help “minimize the lies.”

—Tess Bonn