Giuliani: We don't know for sure if there was a spy in the campaign

Giuliani: We don't know for sure if there was a spy in the campaign
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President TrumpDonald John TrumpHouse Republican threatens to push for Rosenstein impeachment unless he testifies Judge suggests Trump’s tweet about Stormy Daniels was ‘hyperbole’ not defamation Rosenstein faces Trump showdown MORE’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani on Friday downplayed Trump’s claim that there was an FBI or Justice Department “informant” embedded in his campaign.

Giuliani told CNN’s Chris Cuomo that neither he nor Trump knows “for sure” if there was an informant.

“I don’t know for sure, nor does the president, if there really was one,” he said.

He told Cuomo that the team has been “told that” by people “off the record.”

“[We] don’t know if they’re right or not,” he said. “They’re people who knew a little about the investigation.”

Trump on Thursday revived claims that he has made in the past about surveillance of his campaign, citing a National Review report that Obama-led agencies spied on the campaign. According to Trump, if true, the report could be “bigger than Watergate.”

“Wow, word seems to be coming out that the Obama FBI 'spied on the Trump campaign with an embedded informant,'" Trump tweeted. “Andrew McCarthy says, 'There’s probably no doubt that they had at least one confidential informant in the campaign.' If so, this is bigger than Watergate!”

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Cuomo confronted Giuliani about Trump’s past claims about Trump Tower being “wiretapped” by the Obama administration ahead of the election.

“He did say it as fact many times,” Cuomo said.

“I think he thought that,” Giuliani responded.

“That doesn’t make it true,” Cuomo shot back. “That’s part of the problem with understanding this situation. The president feels something, states it as fact, there winds up being no proof but now you have a lot of people believe it.”

“He may turn out to be closer to the truth than people thought,” Giuliani said.