Rapid turnover shapes Trump's government

President TrumpDonald John TrumpBiden campaign slams Facebook after thousands of ads blocked by platform's pre-election blackout Mnuchin says he learned of Pelosi's letter to him about stimulus talks 'in the press' Harris to travel to Texas Friday after polls show tie between Trump, Biden MORE has reshaped his Cabinet and senior team dramatically in the first three-quarters of his presidency.

Over the past year, Trump has welcomed a new attorney general and defense secretary, a third legislative affairs director and a fourth national security adviser and has tapped a fifth person to head up the Department of Homeland Security.

He parted ways with his first secretaries of Labor and Energy and director of national intelligence, opening up a new series of vacancies that have since been filled in an acting or permanent capacity.


Experts describe it as a record-setting turnover at the Cabinet and White House senior staff level in the first three years of the Trump administration.

“Trump’s management style is such that he seems to thrive in a world of very high turnover and new personnel,” said Kathryn Dunn Tenpas, a nonresident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who researches White House staffing and turnover.

According to Tenpas’s research, 80 percent of the top positions in the White House have experienced turnover thus far in Trump’s first term in the Oval Office. Several positions have had multiple occupants, including White House chief of staff and press secretary.

“He’s had more turnover than all of his predecessors did after a full first term, and he achieved that in October,” Tenpas said.

White House allies argue that the higher rate of departures shouldn’t come as a surprise.

“He’s been a disrupter since day one, and he didn’t come to Washington with a group of hangers-on,” said Sean SpicerSean Michael SpicerThe Memo: Trump allies have hope, urge new approach in crucial last debate Spicer mocks Pelosi claim of CNN being GOP 'apologists': 'Had no idea I had Wolf Blitzer in my pocket' Debate moderator Steve Scully says his Twitter account was hacked as president accuses him of being a 'Never Trumper' MORE, Trump’s first White House press secretary. “There’s just going to be a different dynamic than someone who has been in politics for a few decades.”


Many of the dismissals and resignations have come in national security or foreign policy roles, including atop the departments of Defense and State.

Trump has found himself in disagreement with top advisers on foreign policy decisions, clashes that have led to various departures in the administration.

In September, Trump forced out John BoltonJohn BoltonJohn Bolton in heated exchange with BBC anchor over lack of impeachment testimony President Trump: To know him is to 'No' him Obama highlights Biden's tweet from a year ago warning Trump wasn't ready for pandemic MORE — his third national security adviser, known for his hawkish foreign policy views — after the two clashed over the president’s approach to issues such as North Korea and Afghanistan.

Trump replaced Bolton with Robert O’Brien, his former hostage negotiator, who friends predicted would would take a less confrontational approach to the senior position. O’Brien has appeared to gain standing with Trump quickly, representing the administration on a handful of important trips and recently accompanying the president and other aides to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Fla.

The result, experts say, is a president less constrained by advisers who will push back on his “America first” agenda, such as Trump’s efforts to fulfill a campaign pledge to bring U.S. troops home from conflict abroad.

“Trump has over time succeeded in surrounding himself either with people of similar perspective on foreign policy or people who won’t stand up to him,” said Charles Kupchan, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and former National Security Council aide during the Obama administration.

“Whether it’s positive or negative depends on whether you support Trump’s approach to foreign policy,” Kupchan said. “If you think America first is the right way to go, then having ‘yes men’ around the president is a good thing because Trump can be Trump. If you’re less comfortable with his foreign policy, then you’d rather see people pushing back.”

The impeachment hearings have illuminated Trump’s frayed relationship with and distrust of the national security bureaucracy.

When current and former officials — most career but some political appointees — testified about the administration’s unusual policymaking channel on Ukraine that involved Trump’s personal attorney Rudy GiulianiRudy GiulianiGiuliani associate Correia pleads guilty to making false statements Spies are trying to influence the election — US spies, that is Giuliani goes off on Fox Business host after she compares him to Christopher Steele MORE, Trump attacked some of them as “Never Trumpers,” sought distance from them or cast doubt on their statements.

The White House at one point dismissed the impeachment inquiry as “a coordinated smear campaign from far-left lawmakers and radical unelected bureaucrats waging war on the Constitution.”

One of the officials who testified, U.S. diplomat William Taylor, is set to leave his post at the start of the year, creating a vacancy at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine.

The departures over the past three years aren’t limited to the foreign policy realm and have occurred for varying reasons. Alex AcostaAlex Alexander AcostaFederal litigator files complaint alleging Labor secretary abused his authority Appeals court to review legality of Epstein plea deal Appeals court finds prosecutors' secret plea agreement with Epstein didn't break law MORE resigned as Labor secretary in July amid controversy surrounding his handling of a 2008 plea deal with accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.


Sarah SandersSarah Elizabeth SandersSarah Sanders on Trump's reported war dead criticism: 'Those comments didn't happen' Sarah Sanders memoir reportedly says Trump joked she should hook up with Kim Jong Un McEnany stamps her brand on White House press operation MORE, Trump’s second press secretary and a fierce Trump defender, stepped down at the end of June amid growing speculation she would mount a gubernatorial bid in her home state of Arkansas.

Often, Trump selects a candidate from elsewhere in the administration to fill a vacancy, which in turn leaves another role unfilled. That occurred when Trump tapped John Sullivan, then his deputy secretary of State, to replace Jon Huntsman as U.S. ambassador to Russia; the president then filled the No. 2 position with Stephen Biegun, his North Korea envoy.

The president has also tapped people to serve in high-level positions in an “acting” capacity, meaning they don’t go through Senate confirmation and are considered temporary occupants. It’s something he says gives him more “flexibility.” Chad WolfChad WolfWho is 'Anonymous' author Miles Taylor? Hispanic Caucus demands ICE suspend expedited removals Rubio warns that election interference may ramp up around Election Day MORE became the fifth official to hold the position as secretary of Homeland Security, and the third to do so in an acting capacity, in November.

Experts say the effect of such turnover on any administration would be disruption to the policymaking process. It takes time for new occupants to learn the functions of the job, and those serving in acting roles are not viewed as permanent employees, which creates uncertainty and hampers long-term planning.

“It’s highly inefficient,” said Tenpas.

But Spicer argued that the sum of the departures doesn’t matter to voters as long as Trump is seen as delivering on his agenda. He also said it’s difficult to judge the efficacy of one senior position holder compared to the next, given that each official can learn from his or her predecessor.  


“I think there’s some cases yes and there’s some cases maybe not,” Spicer said when asked if Trump was better off now than at the start of his administration with the people he has in place. “There are some people who are really good for right now.”

Senior officials in past administrations largely refrained from departing close to a presidential election, but that could be different under Trump. There is talk of Secretary of State Mike PompeoMichael (Mike) Richard PompeoPompeo's wife and son made personal requests of State Dept staff: report Pompeo: US citizens born in Jerusalem can now list Israel on passports The Hill's Morning Report - Sponsored by Facebook - Trump, Biden blitz battleground states MORE running for Senate in Kansas and speculation that acting chief of staff Mick MulvaneyMick MulvaneyGaffes put spotlight on Meadows at tough time for Trump Trump says he may lower corporate tax rate to 20 percent if reelected Is Social Security safe from the courts? MORE may leave at some point in the near future.

Politico reported recently that Mulvaney was expected to depart the White House sometime after the impeachment trial has ended. However, sources who spoke to The Hill downplayed the prospect of Mulvaney’s ouster. 

“I won’t believe anything until it comes out of the president’s mouth,” said one source close to the White House.