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MSNBC host: Are Melania and Ivanka Trump 'dead inside'?

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The comments come after Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani said earlier this week that he does not “respect” Stormy Daniels, the adult-film star who is suing Trump to void a nondisclosure agreement about their alleged affair, because of her profession.

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"I respect women — beautiful women and women with value — but a woman who sells her body for sexual exploitation, I don't respect," Giuliani said.

The MSNBC panel, which included Vanity Fair reporter Emily Jane Fox, discussed Giuliani’s comments and tied them to Trump’s comments about women.

“The president has incredibly sexist, misogynistic views about how he treats women in general, we’ve heard the way that he talks about women, calling them dogs and pigs, talking about grabbing them by their genitals,” Fox said, referencing the infamous “Access Hollywood” tape that surfaced during the campaign.

Fox said that while Trump may not have “shared” Giuliani’s view on Daniels because he allegedly sought her out for a sexual encounter, he has still made sexist and misogynistic comments about other women.

“He may not have shared these views about these specific women,” Fox said. “But the way that the president talks about women and behaves towards women, it’s not so out of line with what Rudy Giuliani said, and, what he said about Stormy Daniels was disgusting, gave me a pit in my stomach from the second I woke up this morning, but my first reaction was, this is so disrespectful to the first lady."

Wallace then asked how Melanie Trump and Ivanka Trump were likely reacting to Giuliani’s comments, which have drawn backlash from other women in the media, including Megyn Kelly and Mika Brzezinski. Both Kelly and Brzezinski were targets of Trump’s comments during his presidential campaign.

“What do they do on a day like today?” Wallace asked. “Are they just the most stoic human beings, are they numb, are they dead inside, are they paid off?”

“Yes, yes and yes,” Fox replied, saying that the women closest to the president have a “distorted image” of him.

“Ivanka Trump is the most masterful compartmentalizer that America has maybe ever seen,” she said. “She is able to separate those things in a way that you and I probably can’t understand.”