CNN's Cuomo clashes with Kellyanne Conway over Cohen hush-money payments

CNN host Chris Cuomo and White House counselor Kellyanne ConwayKellyanne Elizabeth ConwayLeft-leaning group to track which companies hire former top Trump aides George Conway: Trump's 'influence will wane as he fades into history as a pariah' Pence's relationship with Trump fractures in final days MORE clashed in an interview Thursday night over whether President TrumpDonald TrumpBlinken holds first calls as Biden's secretary of State Senators discussing Trump censure resolution Dobbs: Republicans lost in 2020 because they 'forgot who was the true leader' MORE lied when he said he had no knowledge of hush-money payments made to silence women who claimed to have had affairs with Trump.

Trump's former longtime personal lawyer Michael Cohen told a judge this week that Trump personally directed him to make the payments to adult-film actress Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal, whose allegations of affairs with Trump came to light during the 2016 presidential race.


Conway, who began the CNN interview advising the host not to embarrass his mother on television, took issue with Cuomo's assertion that Trump was lying when he claimed that he had no knowledge of the payments beforehand.

"The president lied about what he knew about these women, he should not lie to the American people, in their face, time and again," Cuomo said.

Conway demanded that Cuomo play Trump's answer to questions about whether he knew about the payments made to Daniels and McDougal.

Cuomo responded by playing the tape as well as another supposedly recorded during the campaign and released by Cohen that depicts the lawyer and Trump discussing payments made to the women.

“You know what tape I want to hear?” Conway shot back, ignoring Cuomo's remarks about the tape. “Tell us what’s on the tape of Chris Cuomo and Michael Cohen.”

Conway was referring to news reports that an unreleased tape recording made by Cohen included a conversation with the CNN anchor, who responded by attacking Conway's integrity.

“There’s a little difference between you and me and the shop you’re working for: integrity," he said, before remarking that Cohen had requested his talk with Cuomo be off the record.

Cohen told a judge this week that Trump, who has previously denied advance knowledge of the hush-money payments that Cohen made during the 2016 election, had directed him to make the payments in the weeks leading up to Election Day.

Cohen, who surrendered to the FBI this week, pleaded guilty to charges of bank and tax fraud as well as campaign finance violations related to the hush-money payments.

He entered his guilty plea the same day that Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul ManafortPaul John ManafortWould Trump have gotten away with a self-pardon? History will never know Trump's pardons harshly criticized by legal experts Presidential pardons need to go MORE, was found guilty on eight counts of bank and tax fraud.