CNN's Ham defends Fox's Carlson: 'Outrage mob' isn't interested in his apology

CNN's Ham defends Fox's Carlson: 'Outrage mob' isn't interested in his apology
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CNN contributor Mary Katherine Ham said Tuesday that Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who is facing fallout from recently resurfaced comments he made about women and minorities years ago, is correct "when he says that if he apologizes, nothing ends."

“I do think he’s right when he says that if he apologizes, nothing ends, and nobody’s interested in his apology,” Ham, a conservative, said on CNN's "New Day."

“I think that’s true," she added. "I think that’s how outrage mobs operate.”

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Ham, who left Fox News after eight years with the network in early 2016 to join CNN, said that Carlson's comments to a radio shock jock named "Bubba the Love Sponge," which were flagged by Media Matters, were offensive. But she argued that being pressured over "political correctness" is something that "resonates with a lot of Americans," particularly supporters of President TrumpDonald John TrumpPelosi arrives in Jordan with bipartisan congressional delegation Trump says his Doral resort will no longer host G-7 after backlash CNN's Anderson Cooper mocks WH press secretary over Fox News interview MORE.

"The idea that people are being cowed by political correctness and by this attempt to fire people and take people’s scalps when they say something mildly errant, even if this isn’t mildly errant, this is something that resonates with a lot of Americans," she said. "This is actually a large part of why Donald Trump was elected, even though I’m not a huge fan and often disagree with Tucker Carlson.”

“I wrote an entire book about how I don’t like coming for people’s heads and people’s jobs because they say things people don’t like,” Ham added. “And I actually believe what I wrote. And I do think there’s another thing that’s corrosive in addition to people saying mean things. And it is the impulse to take people down, and to take people’s jobs for ... errant Facebook posts. Which is something that happens to real people, not just public figures.”

Ham pointed out that some of Carlson's comments, which critics have called misogynistic and racist, were made while he was with MSNBC more than a decade ago.

“Look, if it wasn’t a fireable offense for MSNBC ten years ago, it ain’t a fireable offense now,” Ham concluded.

On Monday night, Carlson lauded his network for standing behind him and vowed to "never bow to the mob."

"Fox News is behind us, as they have been since the very first day," Carlson said. "Toughness is a rare quality in a TV network, and we’re grateful for that."

"We’ve always apologized when we’re wrong, and we'll continue to do that," he added. "That’s what decent people do. They apologize. But we will never bow to the mob, ever, no matter what."