Fox's MacCallum to Swalwell on Steele dossier: 'Are you serious'

Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum conducted an intense interview with Rep. Eric SwalwellEric Michael SwalwellMartha McSally fundraises off 'liberal hack' remark to CNN reporter Enes Kanter sees political stardom — after NBA and WWE Swalwell pens op-ed comparing Trump impeachment to XYZ Affair MORE (D-Calif.) on Tuesday night, at one point asking him if he was “serious” after he asked which parts of the controversial dossier compiled by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele were not “factual.”

The question came up nearly six minutes into the interview, after the two had a long debate over Swalwell’s allegation that President TrumpDonald John TrumpSanders apologizes to Biden for supporter's op-ed Jayapal: 'We will end up with another Trump' if the US doesn't elect progressive Democrats: McConnell impeachment trial rules a 'cover up,' 'national disgrace' MORE was a Russian “agent.”

Swalwell refused to back down from that charge, saying he believed Trump too often acted in Russia’s interests as MacCallum offered a quizzical look.


The two battled over that remark for several minutes before MacCallum asked Swalwell if there was anything he had said that he regretted or that he thought went too far with regards to Trump and the Russian probe.

Swalwell replied that he did not.

MacCallum then raised the Steele dossier, which included a number of allegations about Trump's links to Russia.

“So it doesn’t bother you that the [Hillary] Clinton campaign paid for a dossier to be put together by someone who had all kinds of ties to intelligence and put together something that turned out to be not necessarily factual?” she asked Swalwell.

“Which part of it hasn’t been proven factual?” Swalwell asked in replying. 

“Are you serious?” MacCallum asked. 

“For one thing, Michael CohenMichael Dean CohenJuan Williams: Counting the votes to remove Trump Treasury adviser pleads guilty to making unauthorized disclosures in case involving Manafort Michael Cohen calls for early release from prison MORE said he never went to Prague,” the anchor said of the president's then-personal attorney, noting that Cohen in testimony to Congress said the trip never happened.

News accounts based on the Steele dossier had suggested that Cohen had gone to Prague to meet with Russian officials.

“Now you accept what Michael Cohen said?" Swalwell asked. "Because if you accept what Michael Cohen said about Prague, then I think you also have to accept that Michael Cohen saw Donald Trump talk to Roger StoneRoger Jason StoneAuthorities prepared to hand over Roger Stone records to media: report Bannon: 'We need the Republican establishment on board' to reelect Trump 2019 in Photos: 35 pictures in politics MORE, where Roger Stone said the WikiLeaks attack is happening.”

MacCallum also cited some of the more salacious allegations in the report, none of which have been confirmed.

Swalwell repeatedly asked MacCallum which parts of the Steele dossier had been proven to not be factual.

“You can be on record as standing by what was found in the dossier and I think there is a lot of evidence to refute that,” MacCallum said.