Fox's MacCallum to Swalwell on Steele dossier: 'Are you serious'

Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum conducted an intense interview with Rep. Eric SwalwellEric Michael SwalwellMulvaney admission deals blow to White House impeachment defense Testimony from GOP diplomat complicates Trump defense Lawmakers, social media users praise photo of Pelosi confronting Trump MORE (D-Calif.) on Tuesday night, at one point asking him if he was “serious” after he asked which parts of the controversial dossier compiled by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele were not “factual.”

The question came up nearly six minutes into the interview, after the two had a long debate over Swalwell’s allegation that President TrumpDonald John TrumpZuckerberg launches public defense of Facebook as attacks mount Trump leaning toward keeping a couple hundred troops in eastern Syria: report Warren says making Israel aid conditional on settlement building is 'on the table' MORE was a Russian “agent.”

Swalwell refused to back down from that charge, saying he believed Trump too often acted in Russia’s interests as MacCallum offered a quizzical look.


The two battled over that remark for several minutes before MacCallum asked Swalwell if there was anything he had said that he regretted or that he thought went too far with regards to Trump and the Russian probe.

Swalwell replied that he did not.

MacCallum then raised the Steele dossier, which included a number of allegations about Trump's links to Russia.

“So it doesn’t bother you that the [Hillary] Clinton campaign paid for a dossier to be put together by someone who had all kinds of ties to intelligence and put together something that turned out to be not necessarily factual?” she asked Swalwell.

“Which part of it hasn’t been proven factual?” Swalwell asked in replying. 

“Are you serious?” MacCallum asked. 

“For one thing, Michael CohenMichael Dean CohenTrump offers condolences on frequent foe Cummings: 'Very hard, if not impossible, to replace' Elijah Cummings, Democratic chairman and powerful Trump critic, dies at 68 Schiff says committees will eventually make impeachment inquiry transcripts public MORE said he never went to Prague,” the anchor said of the president's then-personal attorney, noting that Cohen in testimony to Congress said the trip never happened.

News accounts based on the Steele dossier had suggested that Cohen had gone to Prague to meet with Russian officials.

“Now you accept what Michael Cohen said?" Swalwell asked. "Because if you accept what Michael Cohen said about Prague, then I think you also have to accept that Michael Cohen saw Donald Trump talk to Roger StoneRoger Jason StoneMeet Trump's most trusted pollsters 3 real problems Republicans need to address to win in 2020 Judge rejects Stone's request to dismiss charges MORE, where Roger Stone said the WikiLeaks attack is happening.”

MacCallum also cited some of the more salacious allegations in the report, none of which have been confirmed.

Swalwell repeatedly asked MacCallum which parts of the Steele dossier had been proven to not be factual.

“You can be on record as standing by what was found in the dossier and I think there is a lot of evidence to refute that,” MacCallum said.