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Trump censure faces tough odds in Senate

Senators are discussing a long-shot bipartisan effort to censure former President TrumpDonald TrumpHead of firms that pushed 'Italygate' theory falsely claimed VA mansion was her home: report Centrists gain foothold in infrastructure talks; cyber attacks at center of Biden-Putin meeting VA moving to cover gender affirmation surgery through department health care MORE over the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.

Members of the upper chamber are pitching their colleagues on the idea as it becomes increasingly clear that Trump’s impeachment trial will hand him a second acquittal after 45 GOP senators backed an effort this week to declare it unconstitutional because the former president is no longer in office.

But the idea is facing both political and procedural roadblocks, with the Senate currently locked into holding an impeachment trial and few GOP senators openly interested.

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Sen. Susan CollinsSusan Margaret CollinsCentrists gain foothold in infrastructure talks; cyber attacks at center of Biden-Putin meeting Biden struggles to detail post-withdrawal Afghanistan plans White House reiterates opposition to raising gas tax amid infrastructure debate MORE (R-Maine) told reporters that the resolution would be “in lieu” of holding the trial.

“It seems to me that there is some value in looking at an alternative to proceeding with the trial. ... I realize the two leaders have already locked in a schedule. But it seems to me there is benefit in looking at an alternative that might be able to garner bipartisan support. I don't know whether it would or not,” said Collins, who is working with Sen. Tim KaineTimothy (Tim) Michael KaineOvernight Defense: Pentagon pulling some air defense assets from Middle East | Dems introduce resolution apologizing to LGBT community for discrimination | White House denies pausing military aid package to Ukraine Democrats introduce resolution apologizing to LGBT community for government discrimination Democrats scramble to unify before election bill brawl MORE (D-Va.).

A censure resolution, unlike impeachment, would require only 60 votes to pass the Senate, and it would amount to a historic rebuke of Trump. The Senate has censured only one president previously — Andrew Jackson — a decision it reversed three years later.

“I have been talking with a handful of my colleagues, a handful, not 40,” Kaine said. “I think the Paul motion yesterday was completely clarifying that we’re not going to get near 67 votes. So I think there’s maybe a little more interest in could this be an alternative.”

“To do a trial knowing you’ll get 55 votes at the max seems to me to be not the right prioritization of our time right now,” Kaine added.

But Democratic leadership is showing no public interest in backing down from the impeachment trial, even though it likely doesn't have the votes to ultimately convict Trump despite Republicans expressing broad frustration following the Jan. 6 attack.

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Senate Majority Leader Charles SchumerChuck SchumerCentrists gain foothold in infrastructure talks; cyber attacks at center of Biden-Putin meeting Five takeaways on the Supreme Court's Obamacare decision Senate confirms Chris Inglis as first White House cyber czar MORE (D-N.Y.) is vowing to move forward with the trial, wanting to put Republicans on the record about Trump’s rhetoric.

“I would simply say to all of my colleagues: Make no mistake, there will be a trial, and the evidence against the former president will be presented, in living color, for the nation and every one of us to see,” Schumer said.

Sen. Dick DurbinDick DurbinOvernight Health Care: Takeaways on the Supreme Court's Obamacare decision | COVID-19 cost 5.5 million years of American life | Biden administration investing billions in antiviral pills for COVID-19 COVID-19 long-haulers press Congress for paid family leave Joe Manchin keeps Democrats guessing on sweeping election bill MORE (D-Ill.) said he agreed “completely” with Schumer.

“We have a constitutional responsibility to accept this impeach article and hold a trial,” Durbin said.

Durbin, however, did acknowledge that Democrats will discuss a censure if they fail to convict Trump. Several senators have suggested the GOP support for conviction is likely capped at five — the number who voted against a bid by Sen. Rand PaulRandal (Rand) Howard PaulSenate confirms Biden pick for No. 2 role at Interior Rand Paul does not support a national minimum wage increase — and it's important to understand why Fauci to Chelsea Clinton: The 'phenomenal amount of hostility' I face is 'astounding' MORE (R-Ky.) to declare the trial unconstitutional.

“We’re going to talk about it,” Durbin said about the censure measure. “I hope enough Republicans join us to impeach this president. If they don’t, perhaps we’ll consider some alternatives.”

Sen. Joe ManchinJoe ManchinCentrists gain foothold in infrastructure talks; cyber attacks at center of Biden-Putin meeting Manchin is right on the filibuster, but wrong on the PRO Act Democrats facing tough reelections back bipartisan infrastructure deal MORE (D-W.Va.) also appeared to signal that he didn’t think a censure resolution was a strong enough response to the Capitol attack.

“I thought the censure was definitely the way to go back on Ukraine. ... This is much, much more serious than anything we've ever seen in our lifetime, and it's really the purpose of having articles of impeachment in the Constitution,” Manchin said.

Speaking to a crowd near the White House on Jan. 6, Trump repeated his false claims that the election was “rigged” and urged his supporters to march to the Capitol. A mob subsequently breached the building as former Vice President Mike PenceMichael (Mike) Richard PenceIf you care about the US, root for China to score a win in space Pence heckled with calls of 'traitor' at conservative conference The Hill's Morning Report - ObamaCare here to stay MORE and lawmakers were counting the Electoral College votes.

The language of the censure is still being finalized, but Kaine told CNN that it would mirror language from the 14th Amendment. Democrats, including Kaine, have floated using Section 3 to try to bar Trump from holding future office.

“Here’s what it does: It declares that the attack on the Capitol was an insurrection against the Constitution of the United States. ... It then finds that President Trump gave aid and comfort to those who carried out the insurrection by repeatedly lying about the election, slandering election officials, pressuring others to come to Washington for a wild event and encouraging them to come up to Congress,” Kaine said.

“Those two findings, that it was an insurrection and that President Trump gave aid and comfort to the insurrectionists, is language pulled right out of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution,” he added.

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But it’s unclear if censure would get much support beyond the five Republicans who voted against an effort to declare Trump’s trial unconstitutional. If there aren’t 10 Republican votes for a censure resolution, Kaine indicated that there would be a “strong desire” among Democrats to not move forward with it at all.

"I just think it's so hypothetical at this point. ... I've heard some rumblings but not serious discussion that had support from enough Democrats or Republicans for that matter to make this a realistic option,” said Sen. John ThuneJohn Randolph ThuneTrump endorses Murkowski challenger Yellen: Disclosure of tax data to ProPublica a 'very serious situation' Sanders won't vote for bipartisan infrastructure deal MORE (S.D.), the No. 2 Senate Republican.

In addition to Collins, Sen. Lisa MurkowskiLisa Ann MurkowskiCentrists gain foothold in infrastructure talks; cyber attacks at center of Biden-Putin meeting Democrats facing tough reelections back bipartisan infrastructure deal Trump endorses Murkowski challenger MORE (R-Alaska), who was also one of the five to vote against declaring the trial unconstitutional, said she would be “interested” in looking at what the language of the censure would be. A spokeswoman for Sen. Mitt RomneyWillard (Mitt) Mitt RomneyCentrists gain foothold in infrastructure talks; cyber attacks at center of Biden-Putin meeting Centrists gain leverage over progressives in Senate infrastructure battle The Hill's Morning Report - After high-stakes Biden-Putin summit, what now? MORE (R-Utah), who also opposed the Paul effort, said he would be looking at the resolution.

But other Republicans argued that the time to discuss a censure would have been before the House moved forward with its impeachment article and the Senate was locked in to start a trial in less than two weeks.

“I appreciate their thinking outside the box. We’re past that point,” said Sen. Roger WickerRoger Frederick WickerSen. Manchin paves way for a telehealth revolution Senate confirms Radhika Fox to lead EPA's water office Overnight Defense: Pentagon details military construction projects getting .2B restored from wall funds | Biden chooses former commander to lead Navy | Bill seeks to boost visa program for Afghans who helped US MORE (R-Miss.).

Asked about a censure resolution after a trial, Sen. John CornynJohn CornynBlack lawmakers warn against complacency after Juneteenth victory The Senate is where dreams go to die Federal government to observe Juneteenth holiday on Friday MORE (R-Texas) replied, “I don’t know why in the world we would do that.”

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Sen. Kevin CramerKevin John CramerSenate confirms Radhika Fox to lead EPA's water office GOP senator introduces constitutional amendment to ban flag burning Trump dismisses climate change, calls on Biden to fire joint chiefs MORE (R-N.D.) floated that if a censure resolution had been brought up before the House moved forward with impeachment, “there probably would have been a lot of support for it, but at this point I don’t know why we would bail them out.”

Sen. Roy BluntRoy Dean BluntExcellence Act will expand mental health and substance use treatment access to millions Overnight Health Care: Takeaways on the Supreme Court's Obamacare decision | COVID-19 cost 5.5 million years of American life | Biden administration investing billions in antiviral pills for COVID-19 Five takeaways on the Supreme Court's Obamacare decision MORE (R-Mo.) noted that censure was also discussed during the Clinton impeachment trial as well as the first Trump impeachment trial but went nowhere.

“I think it's unlikely that you can unspool one thing and reel another thing out there,” Blunt added. “But we'll see.”