Trump lawyer irked after senators laugh at him

One of the lawyers on former President TrumpDonald TrumpDonald Trump Jr. calls Bruce Springsteen's dropped charges 'liberal privilege' Schiff sees challenges for intel committee, community in Trump's shadow McConnell says he'd back Trump as 2024 GOP nominee MORE’s impeachment defense team grew frustrated after senators began laughing at him during Saturday remarks when the attorney mispronounced “Philadelphia.” 

Michael van der Veen addressed the Senate after Democrats revived debate on whether to call witnesses for Trump’s impeachment trial, including virtually over Zoom. 

Trump’s attorney said that sworn testimony from leaders such as House Speaker Nancy PelosiNancy PelosiMinimum wage setback revives progressive calls to nix Senate filibuster House Democrats to keep minimum wage hike in COVID-19 relief bill for Friday vote Schiff sees challenges for intel committee, community in Trump's shadow MORE (D-Calif.) and Vice President Harris should be done only in person. 


“A lot of depositions need to be happening,” he said. “None of these depositions should be done by Zoom.”

He continued, “We didn’t do this hearing by Zoom. These depositions should be done in person, in my office, in Philadelphia," pronouncing the city as “Philly-delphia.”

Senators then broke out into laughter, seemingly in reaction to the pronunciation, as van der Veen continued, “That’s where they should be done.” 


The attorney then paused as senators continued to laugh before putting his arms up in frustration and saying, “I don't know how many civil lawyers are here, but that's the way it works, folks.” 

“When you want somebody’s deposition, you send a notice of deposition, and they appear at the place where the notice says,” he continued. 

“That’s civil process,” Trump’s attorney added as he threw his hands up in frustration. “I don’t know why you’re laughing. It is civil process. That is the way lawyers do it.”

Sen. Patrick LeahyPatrick Joseph LeahyPress: The big loser: The Republican Party Senate acquits Trump in 57-43 vote Trump lawyer irked after senators laugh at him MORE (D-Vt.), who is presiding over the trial, then interrupted, saying, “I would remind everybody we will have order in the chamber during these proceedings.” 

Van der Veen, after walking away from the podium, returned and told senators, “I haven’t laughed at any of you. And there’s nothing laughable here.”

The Senate then voted to allow for witnesses in the impeachment trial over Trump’s involvement in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, potentially extending the proceedings after senators were initially expected to deliver a final vote on conviction Saturday. 

House Democrats prosecuting the case called for a single witness to testify: Rep. Jaime Herrera BeutlerJaime Lynn Herrera BeutlerActing chief acknowledges police were unprepared for mob Riot probe to likely focus on McCarthy-Trump call Congressional Democrats say Trump acquittal was foregone conclusion MORE (R-Wash.), who has condemned Trump for his actions after the Capitol attack on Jan. 6.

Lead impeachment manager Rep. Jamie RaskinJamin (Jamie) Ben RaskinDeJoy apologizes for mail delays while defending Postal Service changes Officer on Capitol riot: 'Is this America? They beat police officers with Blue Lives Matter flags' Considering impeachment's future MORE (D-Md.) said the deposition could happen remotely by Zoom and that Democrats would request "an hour or less" of her time.

The idea was rejected by van der Veen, who said he'd need more than 100 new witnesses to investigate the circumstances in question thoroughly and accused Democrats of interfering with Trump’s right to due process.