Senate Democrats working on the climate provisions of the budget reconciliation package think they have a path to a deal that will include a methane fee and believe they will get buy-in from centrist Sen. Joe ManchinJoe ManchinIRS data proves Trump tax cuts benefited middle, working-class Americans most Overnight Energy & Environment — Presented by ExxonMobil — Dems press drillers over methane leaks Overnight Health Care — Presented by March of Dimes — Abortion access for 65M women at stake MORE (D-W.Va.).
Democratic senators on Tuesday expressed optimism about nailing down an agreement on the bill’s climate provisions after several Democratic committee chairmen held a meeting on the issue at the Capitol on Monday evening.
But while the methane fee is expected to be a part of the final package, a proposal to tax carbon emissions is viewed as much less likely.
Senate Majority Leader Charles SchumerChuck SchumerHospitals in underserved communities face huge cuts in reckless 'Build Back Better' plan GOP infighting takes stupid to a whole new level Progressive groups urge Schumer to prevent further cuts to T plan MORE (D-N.Y.) on Tuesday announced he feels confident that negotiators will be able to put together a “robust” package of climate proposals.
“There’s going to be a very strong, robust climate package. And our goal is to meet the president’s goal, and there are different ways to get there,” he said.
Democrats involved in the climate talks say the provisions will focus on investing in clean energy instead of punishing polluters, though the methane fee will be included as well.
“There’s an amount of money that the administration thinks will reduce emissions to a level they think is important for us to achieve and a level of investment in infrastructure and [research and development],” said a senator who attended Monday’s meeting.
The senator said money for energy efficient infrastructure, research and development, and tax credits for clean and renewable energy production would be packaged along with the methane fee.
The carbon fee will be negotiated at a later date, possibly on the basis of legislation that passes the House, although House Democrats have so far shown less appetite for passing a carbon pricing plan than some key players in the Senate such as Finance Committee Chairman Ron WydenRonald (Ron) Lee WydenSenate parliamentarian looms over White House spending bill Democrats push tax credits to bolster clean energy Five reasons for concern about Democrats' drug price control plan MORE (D-Ore.).
Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Gary PetersGary PetersFive ways Senate could change Biden's spending plan Overnight Defense & National Security — Presented by Boeing — US mulls Afghan evacuees' future Senators look to defense bill to move cybersecurity measures MORE (D-Mich.), who attended Monday’s climate negotiations, said he feels optimistic about the methane fee being included.
“We had a very good conversation about it. It’s still in the mix,” he said. “We talked through it yesterday.”
Peters said Manchin, a key vote, was “very open to the conversation.”
Senate Environment and Public Works Committee Chairman Tom CarperThomas (Tom) Richard CarperOvernight Energy & Environment — Presented by ExxonMobil — Dems seek to preserve climate provisions Democrats wrangle to keep climate priorities in spending bill Five ways Senate could change Biden's spending plan MORE (D-Del.), who also attended the climate meeting, said that “we’ve had an ongoing conversation with a number of our colleagues, including with Sen. Manchin’s staff,” about the methane fee.
“There’s a strong interest in doing it, to figure out the smart way to do it,” he added.
Carper argued a methane fee would take a major step toward meeting President BidenJoe BidenMarcus Garvey's descendants call for Biden to pardon civil rights leader posthumously GOP grapples with chaotic Senate primary in Pennsylvania Trump social media startup receives commitment of billion from unidentified 'diverse group' of investors MORE’s climate goals.
Senate Commerce Committee Chairwoman Maria CantwellMaria Elaine CantwellReal relief from high gas prices GOP resistance to Biden FCC nominee could endanger board's Democratic majority Scott says he will block nominees until Biden officials testify on supply chain crisis MORE (D-Wash.) said she expects “there will be something there” on a methane fee.
Another Democratic senator briefed on the negotiations said the climate provisions are moving ahead on two tracks with the methane fee on a trajectory to being included in the final package and a carbon tax on a much less certain path.
“The thing to pay attention to is we’ve been told is there will be two iterations. One is the climate spending piece, which is going on right now. ... And once that’s settled, there will be a separate emissions review,” and that will be the chance to add a carbon tax, said the lawmaker.
The senator said negotiators are already counting revenue produced by the methane fee to pay for spending the Environment and Public Works Committee is counting on being included in the package to incentivize renewable energy production.
If the methane fee is yanked out of the package at the last moment, the Environment and Public Works (EPW) panel “would have to find other revenues.”
“EPW has baked the money into its spending,” said the source.
A third Democratic senator briefed on the talks confirmed that the methane fee is expected to be part of the final package.
“It’s already baked,” the lawmaker said.
The source also said the climate provisions are going to be separated into two buckets, with the first package focused on tax breaks for clean and renewable energy sources, investments in clean energy infrastructure and research and development, and the methane fee.
The first bucket will also include legislation to establish the Civilian Climate Corps, a priority of Sens. Chris CoonsChris Andrew CoonsHouse passes bill to expedite financial disclosures from judges Overnight Energy & Environment — Presented by ExxonMobil — Dems seek to preserve climate provisions Democrats wrangle to keep climate priorities in spending bill MORE (D-Del.) and Ed MarkeyEd MarkeySenators seek to curb counterfeit toys and goods sold online Senate GOP blocks defense bill, throwing it into limbo Equilibrium/Sustainability — Presented by Southern Company — Pledged money not going to Indigenous causes MORE (D-Mass.).
The second bucket will include more controversial proposals that have yet to be worked out — such as carbon pricing and a border adjustment fee for carbon intensive imports — and its future is much less certain.
Manchin confirmed to The Hill on Tuesday that he is working with Democratic colleagues in good faith on the methane fee.
“I haven’t seen the text,” he said, cautioning that he would need to review the details before signing off on anything. “I think everybody’s being considerate, and we’re all moving in a positive direction.”
He said that a lot would depend on the wording of the methane pricing proposal.
“You can’t use things as a hammer,” he warned. “You’ve got to give an incentive to do the right thing. ... Methane pricing done wrong is very detrimental. It won’t happen.”
“Incentivize or penalize. Penalize doesn’t work. Incentivize does work,” he added.