Giuliani warns of perjury trap: 'Truth isn't truth'

Giuliani warns of perjury trap: 'Truth isn't truth'
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Rudy Giuliani on Sunday argued that President TrumpDonald John TrumpRepublicans aim to avoid war with White House over impeachment strategy New York Times editorial board calls for Trump's impeachment Trump rips Michigan Rep. Dingell after Fox News appearance: 'Really pathetic!' MORE could get caught in a perjury trap if he agrees to an interview with special counsel Robert MuellerRobert (Bob) Swan MuellerJeffries blasts Trump for attack on Thunberg at impeachment hearing Live coverage: House Judiciary to vote on impeachment after surprise delay Trump says he'll release financial records before election, knocks Dems' efforts MORE, saying "truth isn't truth." 

Giuliani, who is Trump's personal lawyer in the Russia investigation, sought to explain the reason for the drawn-out negotiations between Trump's legal team and Mueller's team over a potential interview.

"I’m not going to be rushed into having him testify so he gets trapped into perjury," Giuliani said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

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"And when you tell me that he should testify because he’s going to tell the truth and he shouldn’t worry, well that’s so silly because that’s somebody’s version of the truth, not the truth," Giuliani said.

"Truth is truth,” anchor Chuck Todd responded.

"No it isn’t," Giuliani said. "Truth isn’t truth."

"Mr. Mayor … this is going to become a bad meme," Todd interjected.

Giuliani went on to say he is skeptical of having Trump speak with Mueller because the special counsel may believe former FBI Director James ComeyJames Brien ComeySunday Talk Shows: Lawmakers look ahead to House vote on articles of impeachment, Senate trial The Hill's 12:30 Report — Presented by UANI — Judiciary Democrats approve articles of impeachment setting up House vote next week Huckabee teases Hannity appearance, says he'll explain why Trump is eligible for third term MORE or another witness's account of events if it contradicts the president.

"We have a credibility gap between the two of them," Giuliani said. "You’ve got to select one or the other."

Trump's legal team and Mueller's team have been locked in a months-long back and forth over a potential interview with the president. Trump has maintained he'd like to speak with investigators, but his lawyers have voiced concerns he could perjure himself.

Giuliani earlier this month rejected Mueller's latest offer for interview terms, which included limiting questions about potential obstruction of justice.

Trump has repeatedly called Mueller’s investigation a “witch hunt” and a “hoax.” He has in recent days accused Mueller of a conflict of interest, though he has not elaborated.

The president on Sunday once again lashed out at Mueller, saying he should investigate Hillary ClintonHillary Diane Rodham ClintonNo, the polls aren't wrong — but you have to know what to look for How to shut down fake Republican outrage over 'spying' on Trump More than 200,000 Wisconsin voters will be removed from the rolls MORE, and that he makes Sen. Joseph McCarthy (R-Wis.) of the 1950s "look like a baby."