Mulvaney pushes back on Graham criticism: ‘He’s not as good a politician as Donald Trump or else he'd be president’

Acting White House chief of staff Mick MulvaneyJohn (Mick) Michael MulvaneyMulvaney poised to become permanent White House chief of staff: report Pentagon sends Congress list of projects that could lose funds to Trump's emergency declaration Trump: Media 'working overtime to blame me' for New Zealand attack MORE in an interview broadcast Sunday downplayed the significance of pressure from President TrumpDonald John TrumpTrump mocks wind power: 'When the wind doesn't blow, just turn off the television' Pentagon investigator probing whether acting chief boosted former employer Boeing Trump blasts McCain, bemoans not getting 'thank you' for funeral MORE's more conservative supporters to follow through on a pledge to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.  

"Meet the Press" anchor Chuck Todd questioned Mulvaney over why Trump can't compromise on the wall in the face of criticism over any deal from conservative media personalities like Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter, and Sen. Lindsey GrahamLindsey Olin GrahamMcConnell calls McCain a 'rare patriot' and 'American hero' after Trump criticism The Hill's Morning Report - Trump, Dems put manufacturing sector in 2020 spotlight GOP steps up attack over tech bias claims MORE (R-S.C.).

"I would make the argument that the president has probably more sway over Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter than vice versa," Mulvaney said.


"And you know that I like Lindsey Graham and he's a good friend of mine," he added. "We're from South Carolina. He’s not as good a politician as Donald Trump or else he'd be president. They both ran and one of them won and one of them lost."

Graham said last week that Trump could not afford to cave on his fight for a border wall, warning that if he gave in, "that's the end of 2019 in terms of him being an effective president."

Mulvaney insisted on Sunday that Trump is "interested in resolving" the partial government shutdown, which has lasted 16 days and counting. The impasse has been spurred by Trump's demand for $5 billion in funding for his proposed border wall, while Democrats have refused to offer any money for the structure.

Mulvaney, Vice President Pence and other White House aides met with congressional leaders' staff on Saturday, and are expected to do so again on Sunday.

Trump has offered shifting messages on the wall as the shutdown drags on, claiming at various times that Congress must fund the wall, that the structure is already largely built and that Mexico will pay for it over time. The wall, however, has not been built and Mexico has said it will not fund the project.