Overnight Defense: Top general briefs GOP senators on Syria plan | Senators 'encouraged' by briefing | Pence huddles with Republican allies on Syria | Trump nominee sidesteps questions on arms treaties

Overnight Defense: Top general briefs GOP senators on Syria plan | Senators 'encouraged' by briefing | Pence huddles with Republican allies on Syria | Trump nominee sidesteps questions on arms treaties
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THE TOPLINE: A group of GOP senators were briefed at the White House on Thursday about a forthcoming Syria plan from top Pentagon officials.

Sen. Lindsey GrahamLindsey Olin GrahamGOP confident of win on witnesses GOP Foreign Affairs leaders join pushback against potential troop drawdown in Africa Republicans signal renewed confidence they'll avoid witness fight MORE (R-S.C.) told reporters that the GOP senators were briefed in the White House situation room by Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. 


"There's a plan coming together from the Joint Chiefs that I think may work, that may give us what we need to prevent ISIS from coming back. ... I am somewhat encouraged that a plan is coming about that will meet our core objectives in Syria," Graham told reporters. 

Troops in discussion: Graham indicated that troops were a part of the discussion within the administration, and signaled that the number of troops could be in the hundreds.

"All of that's being talked about. Is that enough? Well it's not thousands — is it enough to get the job done?" Graham said, when asked how many U.S. troops would be included in the Pentagon's plan. 

He added that he didn't know if the plan would ultimately be approved by Trump.

Graham did not provide any other details about troops being sent to the Middle East. Pentagon officials told Fox News that the United States is "likely" to send tanks and soldiers into eastern Syria.

Who was there: Sens. Lamar AlexanderAndrew (Lamar) Lamar AlexanderGOP confident of win on witnesses Republicans signal renewed confidence they'll avoid witness fight The Hill's Morning Report - Bolton charge ups ante in witness showdown MORE (R-Tenn.), Roy BluntRoy Dean BluntThe Hill's Morning Report - Bolton charge ups ante in witness showdown Trump team doubles down despite Bolton bombshell Bolton upends Trump impeachment trial  MORE (R-Mo.), Ron JohnsonRonald (Ron) Harold JohnsonPerry delegation talking points stressed pushing Ukraine to deal with 'corruption' Overnight Energy: Democrats unveil draft climate bill | Plan aims for carbon neutrality by 2050 | GOP senators press IRS on electric vehicle tax credit Senate Republicans to meet Tuesday afternoon on witness question MORE (R-Wis.) and David Perdue (R-Ga.) were among the approximately 10 senators who took part in the White House meeting.

Johnson told NBC News that "we were actually pretty encouraged by what progress is being made in Syria, and kind of what the game plan is."

The background: The White House has faced weeks of backlash from Capitol Hill over President TrumpDonald John TrumpCNN's Don Lemon explains handling of segment after Trump criticism NPR reporter after Pompeo clash: Journalists don't interview government officials to score 'political points' Lawyer says Parnas can't attend Senate trial due to ankle bracelet MORE's decision to pull troops out of northern Syria, paving the way for Turkey's invasion. 

Republicans fumed, warning that it would empower the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and harm the Kurds, who helped the United States fight ISIS. 

Lawmakers are weighing how to respond to Turkey's actions. 

The House previously passed a resolution formally opposing Trump's decision to pull back U.S. troops and calling on Turkey to end its incursion.

But Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnellAddison (Mitch) Mitchell McConnellTrump allies throw jabs at Bolton over book's claims GOP confident of win on witnesses Collins Senate bid threatens to spark GOP rift in Georgia MORE (R-Ky.) has offered his own resolution, which was met with quick opposition from Democrats. 

Lawmakers in both parties have also introduced legislation to slap new sanctions on Turkey. The House is expected to vote on a sanctions package as soon as next week. 

And Pence meets with Trump allies: The same day, Vice President Pence huddled in the Capitol with Trump’s top allies in the House to discuss “progress” in Syria and other national security issues, meeting participants told The Hill.

Those who met with Pence in the Senate dining room included House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthyKevin Owen McCarthyFox's Wallace: Nadler would pay to have his Clinton impeachment remarks 'expunged from the Earth' McCarthy raises over million in Q4 for House GOP GOP leader warns lawmakers on fundraising: 'Getting our ass kicked' MORE (R-Calif.), GOP Conference Chairwoman Liz CheneyElizabeth (Liz) Lynn CheneyHillicon Valley: UK allows Huawei to build 5G in blow to Trump | Lawmakers warn decision threatens intel sharing | Work on privacy bill inches forward | Facebook restricts travel to China amid virus Lawmakers warn US, UK intel sharing at risk after Huawei decision Mother of child in viral meme sends Steve King cease-and-desist for using image in fundraising MORE (Wyo.), former Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark MeadowsMark Randall MeadowsJohn Kelly: 'I believe John Bolton' The Memo: Bolton furor raises stakes for GOP senators Meadows: Bolton manuscript leaked 'to manipulate' senators over witness vote MORE (R-N.C.), and the top Republican on the Foreign Affairs Committee, Rep. Michael McCaulMichael Thomas McCaulGOP Foreign Affairs leaders join pushback against potential troop drawdown in Africa Rockets hit US Embassy compound in Baghdad Top Indian official canceled congressional meeting over inclusion of Jayapal: report MORE of Texas.

That conversation: Cheney, one of the loudest GOP critics of Trump’s abandonment of the Kurds, who have fought for years alongside the U.S. in the war against ISIS, declined to discuss specifics about the meeting but said GOP leaders and Pence talked about “where we are headed from a national security perspective.”

“We’re really grateful the vice president came and took the time,” Cheney said as she emerged from the meeting, “and personally I’m going to ensure that we continue to do everything we can do to fight ISIS to make sure that we can defend the nation, and I think it’s very important for us to continue to stand with our allies around the world.”

It was unclear if impeachment came up during the discussion.

Cheney, the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney, said the meeting with Pence had been scheduled for several days. 

“The vice president wanted to come up and talk about where things stand with respect to Turkey and a number of other issues as well,” Cheney said. 

“The focus was very much on national security.”

Read more from The Hill’s Syria/Turkey coverage:

-- The Hill: Syria says Turkish forces, allies attacked government troops, Kurds

-- The Hill: Three-quarters say they're concerned by situation in Syria: poll

-- The Hill: Pentagon chief rips Turkey over 'unwarranted' Syria invasion

-- The Hill: Pompeo to reporter in Kansas: 'The whole predicate of your question is insane'


NUCLEAR COMMAND NOMINEE SIDESTEPS QUESTIONS ON ARMS CONTROL TREATIES: The admiral nominated to lead the U.S. military command in charge of nuclear weapons sidestepped questions Thursday on whether the United States should stay in a pair of treaties arms control advocates fear are on President Trump’s chopping block.

Vice Adm. Charles Richard, the nominee to be commander of U.S. Strategic Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee he would give the president his “best military advice” on the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (New START) and Treaty on Open Skies, and listed several pros and cons with each.

But he would not definitively say at his confirmation hearing whether he supports staying in the treaties or withdrawing despite several senators’ attempts to get him to do so.

“I will support any arms control or other treaty that enhances the security of this nation,” Richard said generally when asked about both treaties.

About the treaties: New START, negotiated by the Obama administration, caps the number of deployed nuclear warheads the United States and Russia can have at 1,550 each.

New START is up for renewal in 2021. The Trump administration has indicated it wants to expand the scope of the treaty as a condition of extension, by taking steps such as folding in China and other weapons not currently covered by the agreement.

Supporters of New START say the Trump administration’s conditions are poison pills meant to kill the treaty.

The Open Skies Treaty, meanwhile, allows the pact’s 34 signatories to fly unarmed observation flights over the entire territory of other signatories. The intention is to increase transparency and reduce the risk of military miscalculation.

The United States has also used the treaty in recent years to show support for Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression, flying observation flights in 2018 after Russia seized Ukrainian naval ships and in 2014 after Russia invaded Crimea.

But Republicans for years have accused Russia of violating the treaty by blocking flights over some of its territory, including Kaliningrad and areas near its border with the Georgian regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

No commitment: Democrats first raised the alarm earlier this month that the administration was considering withdrawing from Open Skies, writing a letter to Defense Secretary Mark EsperMark EsperGOP Foreign Affairs leaders join pushback against potential troop drawdown in Africa Overnight Defense: US military jet crashes in Afghanistan | Rocket attack hits US embassy in Baghdad | Bolton bombshell rocks impeachment trial Overnight Defense: Veterans group seeks Trump apology for comments on brain injuries | Pentagon says dozens of troops suffered traumatic injuries after attack | Trump unveils Space Force logo MORE and Secretary of State Mike PompeoMichael (Mike) Richard PompeoNPR reporter after Pompeo clash: Journalists don't interview government officials to score 'political points' NPR sends letter to State Dept. demanding answers for reporter's removal from trip Trump allies throw jabs at Bolton over book's claims MORE that said they “understand” a withdrawal is under consideration.

On Thursday, Sen. Tom CottonThomas (Tom) Bryant CottonOvernight Health Care — Presented by Philip Morris International — HHS has no plans to declare emergency over coronavirus | GOP senator calls for travel ban to stop outbreak | Warren releases plan to contain infectious diseases Hillicon Valley: UK allows Huawei to build 5G in blow to Trump | Lawmakers warn decision threatens intel sharing | Work on privacy bill inches forward | Facebook restricts travel to China amid virus Lawmakers warn US, UK intel sharing at risk after Huawei decision MORE (R-Ark.), an ardent opponent of Open Skies, pushed Richard on his case for withdrawing from the treaty.

Cotton asked Richard whether he sees “value in remaining in a treaty where only one side is following the rules” and whether “we have the best satellite constellation in the world.”

“I think this is a lot like the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty,” Cotton said, referring to a treaty Trump has already withdrawn from. “Everyone agrees Russia is not complying with it. Everyone agrees it would be best if we brought Russia back into compliance. Everyone agrees it would be great if everyone had a pony, as well. But we’ve spent years trying to get Russia into compliance with this treaty, and in the meantime, Russia has continued to gain significant intelligence advantage over the United States.”

Richard told Cotton his analysis of Russia’s violations was “quite correct,” but would not commit one way or the other on the treaty.


PELOSI, DEMS SEND MESSAGE ON FOREIGN POLICY WITH HIGH-PROFILE TRIP: House Democrats are sending an implicit message that President Trump and his administration aren’t the only ones setting U.S. foreign policy.

Speaker Nancy PelosiNancy PelosiDemocrats offer mixed reactions to Trump's Mideast peace plan James Taylor to perform at awards ceremony for Ruth Bader Ginsburg this week Trump offers two-state peace plan for Israeli-Palestinian conflict amid skepticism MORE (D-Calif.) and her party are seeking to reassure foreign allies about U.S. policies, including the U.S. role in Syria and the broader Middle East, even as they move toward impeaching the president.

The most high-profile example came when Pelosi arrived in Jordan and Afghanistan over the weekend unannounced with seven other Democrats and one Republican.

Timing: The trip was planned months before Trump’s announcement of a withdrawal of troops from northern Syria, and it is common practice for lawmakers and U.S. officials not to announce trips to the Middle East beforehand for security reasons.

But the timing was notable coming amid heightened tensions between Trump and Democrats, who have launched a process that could lead to the president’s removal from office. It is also just more than a year before the presidential election, with the Democratic campaign to elect a nominee already at a fever pitch.

Rep. Stephen LynchStephen Francis LynchBiden leads 2020 pack in congressional endorsements Election security, ransomware dominate cyber concerns for 2020 Hillicon Valley: Groups file appeal over net neutrality ruling | Lawmakers raise concerns over foreign apps | Payroll data stolen from Facebook MORE (D-Mass.), who was on the trip, emphasized that the timing was just a coincidence. Still, the Syria withdrawal drastically altered the context of the conversations between the lawmakers and the leaders of both Jordan and Afghanistan, who expressed open concerns, Lynch said, about the commitment of the United States to its allies overseas.

“That was palpable,” Lynch said. “There is concern, I think, on everyone’s part.”

“The message to the Jordanians was: ‘The U.S. and Jordan have had a long relationship of mutual support, and we continue that,’ ” he added. “In Afghanistan, it was a similar expression of congressional support.”

Days before leaving on the trip, the House last week overwhelmingly passed a resolution opposing Trump’s decision on Syria. Just 60 Republicans opposed the measure.

The Hill’s Rebecca Kheel has more here.



Army Secretary Ryan McCarthyRyan McCarthyTrump's 355-ship pledge complicates the Navy's budget dilemma Overnight Defense: War powers fight runs into impeachment | Kaine has 51 votes for Iran resolution | Trump plans to divert .2B from Pentagon to border wall Overnight Defense: House passes measure to limit Trump on Iran | Pelosi vows vote to end 2002 war authorization | Officials believe Iran accidentally shot down passenger plane MORE, Undersecretary of the Navy Thomas Modly, Vice Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Robert Burke; and Rep. Rob WittmanRobert (Rob) Joseph WittmanRepublicans eye top spot on Natural Resources panel The Suburban Caucus: Solutions for America's suburbs Overnight Defense: Top general briefs GOP senators on Syria plan | Senators 'encouraged' by briefing | Pence huddles with Republican allies on Syria | Trump nominee sidesteps questions on arms treaties MORE (R-Va.) will speak at the Military Reporters & Editors Association annual conference beginning at 8:30 a.m. in Arlington, Va. 

Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert WilkieRobert Leon WilkieVA leader must demonstrate commitment to ending harassment The Hill's 12:30 Report: Trump says Dems shouldn't hold public hearings Overnight Defense: Pentagon says Syrian oil revenue going to Kurdish forces | GOP chair accuses Dems of using Space Force as leverage in wall fight | Dems drop plans to seek Bolton testimony MORE will speak on "Honoring America's Veterans Through Improved Care and Services,” at 2 p.m. at the Heritage Foundation in Washington, D.C. 



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