Rep. Jim Jordan
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Jordan, a close ally of President Trump
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Fauci did not address the protests directly, but said more broadly: "Avoid crowds of any type no matter where you are ... I don't judge one crowd versus another crowd."
Can’t go to church.
— Rep. Jim Jordan (@Jim_Jordan) July 31, 2020
Can’t go to work.
Can’t go to school.
Even Dr. Fauci says protesting is dangerous.
But Democrats encourage people to riot and protest in the streets. pic.twitter.com/78Dyjkt6D6
Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) later pushed back on Jordan's comments, pointing to the importance of the civil rights movement protests. "I'm sitting here as the result of a protest," he said.
Clyburn pointed to his 60-year relationship with the late Rep. John Lewis
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"We met protesting, trying to get off the back of the bus, trying to integrate schools," Clyburn said. "I'm glad the government did not limit our protest."
While it is hard to know for sure how much the protests have contributed to the spread of the coronavirus, there have not been widespread clear spikes in cases due to them.
Protests are outside, which helps reduce transmission, and many attendees at protests wore and continue to wear masks. Still, Fauci noted it is a risk any time there are crowds of people.
When Jordan pressed for a direct answer on the protests, saying, "So the protests don't increase the spread of the virus?" Fauci shot back: "I didn't say that, you're putting words in my mouth."
"I just want an answer to the question, do the protests increase the spread of the virus?" Jordan said.
"I can tell you that crowds are known, particularly when you don't have a mask, to increase the acquisition and transmission, no matter what the crowd is," Fauci replied.
Asked if the government should limit the protests, as it has other gatherings like those at churches, Fauci said that is not for him to decide.
"I'm not in a position to determine what the government can do in a forceful way," Fauci said.
Jordan later responded to Clyburn by expressing concern for police officers responding to the protests, saying he's "not talking about the violence, but the exposure they have to the coronavirus," urging officials to track that data.
